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[xytan4]

Holy shit! I'm comparing pics of real vagina spread open compared to pics of the Maria Meiki spread open, and it's just incredibly mind blowing how insanely accurate it is! I will definitely be buying next chance I get! Those poor guys at ILF have no idea what they're up against.

[yourself]

Holy shit! I'm comparing pics of real vagina spread open compared to pics of the Maria Meiki spread open, and it's just incredibly mind blowing how insanely accurate it is! I will definitely be buying next chance I get! Those poor guys at ILF have no idea what they're up against.

Link to those pics would be great!  Were you on or are you on the fleshlight forums.  I was banned, lol.  I would like to take that forum hostage and let all the people there look at these things.  It is so funny how many of those people spend on those worthless things, some have 25 of those crap shoots, just way too funny for me. 

[xytan4]

Yeah, I'm known as Starkiller on the ILF boards. I think I saw you there once or twice, I haven't posted in a while. I too feel like posting pics of the Maria Ozawa on their forum, but their moderators would probably delete and then ban me before any could look at it. lol

I feel sorry for the poor suckers buying their crap, the latest textures they've just released are pathetic. I feel like an ass cos I got suckered in by their hype.

[yourself]

Yeah, same here.  But if it weren't for them sucking so badly I probably wouldn't have found ToyDemon. 

[xytan4]

Haha, I found Toydemon through an ad on a hentai site. I saw the amazing stuff they were selling and never looked back. Though I did buy a Raven Riley Lotus after buying the 17 Evo, let me just say I'll never get suckered in again by ILF.

[Paste]

I agree with you guys about ILF.  I was really hoping they'd do something amazing with the new textures but they failed miserably IMO.  Did they seriously put tiny hearts in one of them?  That has got to be the most stupid thing I have seen.  Why the fuck would I drop $80 to fuck a tube with little pink hearts in it?  I could maybe understand if they put it in the gay section, but they're trying to market a pink fuck tube filled with little pink hearts to straight men?  The complete lack of creativity and their inability to think outside the box is extraordinarily disappointing.  Good for TD though, now they get more of my money

They actually did have a thread that had internal pics of a Meiki Down, I think people were/are interested but a lot of them are hardcore FL fanatics, great brand loyalty ILF has built up, but they are failing to compete with the Japanese toy manufacturers in regard to internal canal design, IMO.

How do you like your 17 evo?  I have a Meiki Zhang Xiao Yu (ZXY) and I HIGHLY recommend it.  I have not tried the clone series (yet) but I believe the material is a bit firmer in the ZXY.  The detail is incredible, and due to the firmer material, you feel all the little bumps and ridges.  Out of the clone series I think Miyu Hoshino is the first one I'll try.

[xytan4]

My 17 Evo is long gone. I bought the Fleshlight Lotus after it wore out, wish I hadn't now. I just bought the Clone Meiki Muguru Kosaka, it will get me through until I can buy the Maria Ozawa. I'm not too sure about the ZXY, it has the same dual-layer as the 17 Evo and that is prone to coming apart.

[Paste]

How long did it last?  I've only had the ZXY for about a month.  There are no issues for me so far, no tears or separation of the layers.  I didn't like the lotus at first either but after using it a few times I understood how to use it better, there is a learning curve for these sometimes.  Now I love the lotus, it's one of the few FLs I still use. 

[HardGay]

sigh..after reading all these... i kind of want to get myself a FL...lol..i dont own one but I want to get one just to feel the difference...

[xytan4]

Trust me, don't get one. It feels like crap after the first wash cos the material gets so damn sticky. I've never had a sex toy that gets so sticky, it's like one of those sticky toys you throw on the wall and watch it climb down. LOL

[koikoi]

I like how ILF advertises the Lotus texture as being the most realistic toy ever. I guess if you have a 10 inch long penis and you like to penetrate straight through a woman's cervix, it makes sense. A woman with a completely smooth inside, to boot.

A $20 japanese toy has better textures than a $80 FL. If ToyDemon (easy access to Japanese toys) were around when ILF was first starting up with the FL (with those annoying ass banners of crudely drawn guys using the FL they had EVERYWHERE, if you know what I'm talking about), ILF wouldn't be anywhere near the success it's had.

[yourself]

sigh..after reading all these... i kind of want to get myself a FL...lol..i dont own one but I want to get one just to feel the difference...

Take it from us, it is not worth the money.  Do what you want, but I can guarantee you'll be back to the real deal that is Japanese sex toys.

 

[yourself]

How long did it last?  I've only had the ZXY for about a month.  There are no issues for me so far, no tears or separation of the layers.  I didn't like the lotus at first either but after using it a few times I understood how to use it better, there is a learning curve for these sometimes.  Now I love the lotus, it's one of the few FLs I still use. 

Paste, I recognize you from FL forums.  Anyway, I was planning on getting the ZXY until I heard it rips and then is pretty much useless.  I was tossing around the ZXY, Maria Meiki, and the Clone Hoshino.  Do you own the Maria Meiki (original - not up or down)?  If so, which one do you prefer between Maria and ZXY?  I hear the Maria is softer material and has more pronounced bumps over the ZXY, but the ZXY is just intriguing, with the dual layers.

[Paste]

sigh..after reading all these... i kind of want to get myself a FL...lol..i dont own one but I want to get one just to feel the difference...

FLs are okay, their time has passed though.  Japanese toys are vastly superior and ILF does not seem interested in even attempting to produce something similar.  I own 7 FLs and only use 2 of them, the lotus and the forbidden, I'd recommend either of those if you want to try one badly enough.  I would not recommend the speed bump, ultra tight, or STU, those are horrible IMO.  FL is a very primitive canal design, they use simple textures that will get you off, but the overall sensation is much less than with the Japanese toys.  The matieral used in FLs is very sticky, I believe most people use corn starch to remedy that issue, but it still can be annoying.

Paste, I recognize you from FL forums.  Anyway, I was planning on getting the ZXY until I heard it rips and then is pretty much useless.  I was tossing around the ZXY, Maria Meiki, and the Clone Hoshino.  Do you own the Maria Meiki (original - not up or down)?  If so, which one do you prefer between Maria and ZXY?  I hear the Maria is softer material and has more pronounced bumps over the ZXY, but the ZXY is just intriguing, with the dual layers.

Hello yourself, I remember you from the FL forums also, welcome to TD!    I do not own the Meiki Maria, I own the Meiki Down and the ZXY.  AFAIK the Meiki Down and Meiki Maria are made from the same material, the ZXYs outer layer is also made from the same material, it's just the inside that has a firmer material.  Between the ZXY and the Down, I prefer the ZXY.  Not to say that the Down isn't also great, I still use it, just not as often as the ZXY.  Between the 2 toys the Down has ripped more than the ZXY, it does not affect the performance, the ZXY has not ripped at all and there is no sign of the two layers seperating.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you do to get banned from the FL forums?

[yourself]

Paste, no problem.  I was banned for being an asshat to some people, when the tension got worse and worse.  I just orlando took offense to some things I said about him and his unprofessionalism on the forum and blog, not only are fleshlights archic but so is orlandofleshlight.  The main reason behind it all was actually the new swallow texture.  I had entered a design your own fleshlight sleeve contest and the swallow was the same as my design, only they changed the ribs from a wonderwave to a superribbed.  I was not too happy about that.  They stole my design called it their own and made a fortune on it and left me with nothing, instead they got rid of me after I tried to voice my disgruntled self. 

Oh well it all worked out in the end, as I have found my way to the greener part of the valley.  I am still tossing around the Meiki Maria and ZXY.  Out of those two which one is most realistic?  Closest to vaginal sex...