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[yourself]

Here are several news links:

http://austin.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2010/06/28/daily59.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2010/07/02/2010-07-02_sextoy_makers_patience_reaches_climax.html

http://www.examiner.com/x-37614-Austin-Market-Examiner~y2010m7d2-Austinbased-maker-of-sex-toys-files-federal-complaints-against-alleged-patent-violators

I was actually laughing while I was reading this.  Those ILF lawyers sound completely lost in all this.  I have a background in federal patents and I can tell you this, if the Japanese makers did not "COPY" the material of the Fleshlight, the Fleshlight Casing, and Name and Trademarks of ILF they will be embarrassed with the outcome.  Of course lawyers make all kinds of claims to lock in their clients money and this is without a doubt the claim.  ILF will be loosing money and time during this "battle".  Not only that the Japanese Sex toy makers now have grounds to counter suit based on Libel and Defamation of their so called "stealing ILF sales" with knock-off products.  I will be following this as much as the media allows and I would suggest we all do here on TD.   

[yourself]

Also, you simply cannot lock in a patent that says you have the right to make, sell, and keep a market...you cannot file a patent that states "I make sex toys out of Elastomer"...much much more goes into accepting patents and takes time to seal in patents and trade-marks.  It is just silly if they are making those claims.  As a former ILF customer and now a Japanese Sex toy fan, I can definitely say ILF chemical materials are not of the same amalgamation and have no bearing on this claim.  There are several companies that make a flashlight like sex toy but that is perfectly fine as long as they do not write Fleshlight trade-makers on their flashlight casing, those casing designs are different anyways.  Their just isn't any grounds for this, ILF must be loosing sales.  In addition, International Trade Commission would really have their work cut out for them.  Patents are filed each and every day around the world with the inventors primary national company origin, cross boarder patents are more difficult to regulate based on each countries patent, trade-mark, and business legislation.  This is just a cry for help, as ILF must be loosing the battle to the real winners of the market.  Long live Tenga and the Japanese Sex toy market  .  

[xytan4]

I'm probably gonna be banned now.  

This is what I said: "Is ILF so pathetic now that they have to file law suits against their competitors because the Japanese products are superior to the pieces of shit ILF puts out? This is absolutely disgusting. ILF must be really desperate to make sells if they have take such action now."

And I posted the links to the articles.

Edit: I'm probably gonna be flamed out the ass. lol

[yourself]

I'm probably gonna be banned now.  

This is what I said: "Is ILF so pathetic now that they have to file law suits against their competitors because the Japanese products are superior to the pieces of shit ILF puts out? This is absolutely disgusting. ILF must be really desperate to make sells if they have take such action now."

And I posted the links to the articles.

Edit: I'm probably gonna be flamed out the ass. lol

awesome job man.  if I wasn't banned many moons ago I would have done the same thing, FUCK ILF...bunch of shitty product bitches.

what is ILF going to try to do now sue me for buying meiki instead of that overpriced piece of junk.  I will convert everyone I know to TD, plus now everyone knows who ILF is so much for being discreet, lol fucking clueless retards

[xytan4]

I wish I could've launched a more scathing attack, but I was so pissed off I just put down what I could immediately think up. ILF has really sunk low now. They're trying to do what Microsoft did, back in the day there was a bunch of competitors releasing Windows like operating systems and Microshaft sued and then paid these companies millions of dollars to stop making their software so that Microsuck would have a monopoly. Now it seems like ILF is doing the same. Pathetic.

We need to Boycott ILF. They're not just trying to block the knock-off, but all toys that use the elastomer gel. This means that Meiki and any other Japanese sex toy could be banned from the US.

[yourself]

I wish I could've launched a more scathing attack, but I was so pissed off I just put down what I could immediately think up. ILF has really sunk low now. They're trying to do what Microsoft did, back in the day there was a bunch of competitors releasing Windows like operating systems and Microshaft sued and then paid these companies millions of dollars to stop making their software so that Microsuck would have a monopoly. Now it seems like ILF is doing the same. Pathetic.

We need to Boycott ILF. They're not just trying to block the knock-off, but all toys that use the elastomer gel. This means that Meiki and any other Japanese sex toy could be banned from the US.

It won't happen you can NOT patent an elastomer gel, you have to patent the actual mix of chemicals in the gel, the only way to do so would be if the Japanese were using the exact same mix, which they are not...as we both know ILF is using that sticky frog material one would get out of the 50 cent machine at walmart.  

You still have time to do that.  I would go on fleshlight forums and just add a shitload of new topics and just say in each that ILF sucks major dick, and that Japanese toys are 1 trillion times better.  hell I would even advertise other sites

[xytan4]

It'd be a useless gesture, the mods would immediately delete the message and then ban my account. I hope ILF embarrasses themselves in court, that'd be a real nice thing to see.

[yourself]

It'd be a useless gesture, the mods would immediately delete the message and then ban my account. I hope ILF embarrasses themselves in court, that'd be a real nice thing to see.

your already going to be banned anyways, and the mods arent on there during the weekends

[xytan4]

I'm not gonna sink myself to their pathetic level, the people who buy their products are mindless lemmings (well most of them) who think ILF's shit don't stink.

ILF isn't trying to get them for the elastomer gel, they know that's impossible. Instead they're trying to get Tenga for the casing, saying it violates a patent. In other words, they're doing a Microsoft.

[yourself]

like that would ever happen, it just isnt tenga either though, they are actually going after 25 total and TD is included because they are a distributer, but I dont see how a tenga case is anything like a fleshlight case or sex in the can, there are a couple that are similar, but not the same

A PATENT WOULD NEVER BE THAT VAGUE

[xytan4]

I'll laugh my ass off when Tenga counter sues.  

"How does it violate patent? The Tenga case looks nothing like Fleshlight. Just the fact that it's contained in a plastic shell gives ILF the right to sue? Then they better be suing every one and any one that has ever put a sex toy in a case. Sounds like desperation to me.

I'm sorry, but this just pisses me off. It makes no fucking sense. Going after a competitor cos their product looks some what similar to Fleshlight. This is a free market, if ILF can't handle competition then they should just quit now."

I just posted that on the ILF forum.

[yourself]

I'll laugh my ass off when Tenga counter sues.  

"How does it violate patent? The Tenga case looks nothing like Fleshlight. Just the fact that it's contained in a plastic shell gives ILF the right to sue? Then they better be suing every one and any one that has ever put a sex toy in a case. Sounds like desperation to me.

I'm sorry, but this just pisses me off. It makes no fucking sense. Going after a competitor cos their product looks some what similar to Fleshlight. This is a free market, if ILF can't handle competition then they should just quit now."

I just posted that on the ILF forum.

good but like you said fuck em, this isnt going to go any where, Im just laughing at the fact that they have to pay for court fees and any other international fees, and counter suits....dumb ILF  Im over their stupid ass

[Primative]

This ILF lawsuit disgusts me. Never had anything against ILF but now I certainly do. Safe to say I hate them now.

More so because their doing this fucks with us, the consumer. If we want tenga we want tenga and and I dont like having someone else tell me what my options are, or even attempt to.

Long live Tenga and Toy Demon, if ILF somehow manages to dick us all over... I dont even know where to start, but I sure have some things in mind.

[xytan4]

They won't ban them from entering the US, that would be an impossible feat. Instead they'll force them to pay ILF damages. One line that particularly pissed me off said that every Tenga sold is money that rightfully belongs to ILF. Now that is just low and disgusting.

[Primative]

Not banned no, but decreased accessibility could be a frustrating outcome.