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[Meikidemon000]

Hello guys ! 

I'm from Belgium so I'm sorry for my english, I will do my best ! I'm 27 years old and I have some questions for you ! 
I always want to have sex with my girlfriend but we dont really have the same libido ! It sometimes drives me crazy 

I dont want to cheat on her or make something stupid because of that so I would like to have something who can "replace" her in the most realistic way...  Enough of my hand lol 
I'm reading here that Meiki is the best brand for that but I see that there are a lot of different products so I'm simply lost

I dont want to put more than 70/80 euros and I would like to order on amazon.de
I just want the most realistic feeling of vagina for that price.

Do you have an idea for me ?

Thanks guys, I hope I can have something good with my money lol

 

Edit: Meiki is a kind of male masturbator or a brand lol ?

In fact, I can resume like that, is this product a good one for a first Meiki

http://www.mytenga.nl/mini-meiki-ivory-angel.html

Thanks !

[DEICIDA]

Hi there.  See this thread... you can search for previous topics with relevant keywords.  According to some discussion the maria Ozawa would be the one.  It makes sense as I personally feel

https://forum.toydemon.com/index.php/topic,1401.msg13673.html#msg13673

There is a lot of confusion about "Meiki" because according to Casquatero, another user on this forum, "meiki is a general adjective meaning "best", "precious", or "perfect". Now it is mostly used to described an incredibly good vagina..."

But here on tyodemon a lot of users know it because of the product line called Meiki but the actual brand is NPG.  The product line is roughly called "Proof of Meiki" (ozawa, zxy, laura/rola, hibiki, up/down, pride, whatever).  toydoemon has now changed the product titles to reflect their actual names more accurately now, but the previous omission of everything and just calling it Meiki xxxx easily makes one think it's a brand.  Also we typically see products online as "Brand" keyboard or "brand" electronic device, so I think that may be part of the cause.  This website actually does list the brand under the specifications tab at least unlike other sites like QC and KTs.  However, I've found some Japanese sites like NLS to list brands a little more obviously, but their product information is not as good as toydemons.

What is also confusing is that toydmeon also called the OKNYEO from the KOKOS brand "Meiki Pure Hip" even though that's not even the name on the official site of KOKOS.  Another thing is KOKOS is Korean and NPG is Japanese.  KOKOS products are much more firmer than NPGs.  So this confusion is detrimental to many people associating the word MEIKI with a brand when it originally isn't.  Now that toydeomn trademarked it, they have their own brand in the US, but their products are NOT the meiki no syoumei (ozawa, zxy, hibiki etc.) that we have come to love.  They barely released their first onahole recently.  Either way it's associated with a popular product line from NPG so it's beneficial for them to hook others who don't know any better.

[Meikidemon000]

I realise that the choice is very limited when you are from Belgium, I really dont know how to buy this without having very shipping cost or custom fees, etc...

So I have to found the better shop and then, I will find the better choice with my waller too lol

Thanks !

[Meikidemon000]

Now, I'm going to order the flop hole black because I want to try these kind of masturbator and a fleshlight too.
I already forgot the fleshlight, I want to replace it by the Maria Ozawa.

Also I only pay 42 euros for the FHB so I think its not expansive to try it.
And who knows, maybe like that, I will realize easier that the Maria is THE bomb

Thanks guys I already have a better pictiure of the masturbators world lol

[bhh]

Now, I'm going to order the flop hole black because I want to try these kind of masturbator and a fleshlight too.
I already forgot the fleshlight, I want to replace it by the Maria Ozawa.

Also I only pay 42 euros for the FHB so I think its not expansive to try it.
And who knows, maybe like that, I will realize easier that the Maria is THE bomb

Thanks guys I already have a better pictiure of the masturbators world lol

I've had some of the flip holes, and if you want sensation the flip hole black has a lot to it, but is definitely far from real. I've had fleshlight's too and imo those sucked.

Like deicida said the maria is pretty popular for being realistic. I had one and while it was nice, it had an off-center canal I just couldn't get used to. Hopefully most of them aren't like that. It really just depends on if you want realistic or extra sensation. A lot of people like the Meiki 05 ZXY dual layer, but I thought it was too much.

https://www.toydemon.com/meiki-maria-ozawa-masturbator
https://www.toydemon.com/meiki-zhang-xiao-yu-choo-shuu-u-masturbator

[Meikidemon000]

Yes, in fact I dont know which one to choose...

The ZXY or Maria ....  I know I will not buy both but really dont know which one is the best.

Who's the best ration realism/sensation ?

[MeikiGuru]

@DEICIDA
Sorry but there's a lot of not quite right information you got there.
No offense to Casquatero but he's pretty wrong on that one too.
The words "名器"　or "有名な器/ゆうめいなうつわ" is a noun literally translated as "famous/well known container/utensil".
Together it's not a real word in the dictionary just a made up word for onahos.
For Japanese Onaho, the term "名器" has been used for a long time by a lot of different companies and not first used by NPG.
In Japan "名器" doesn't equal NPG.

In English, the term "Meiki" becoming the perception that "Now it is mostly used to described an incredibly good vagina..." started only after the term became popular.
Before Toy Demon, I remembered all the "名器" were called "Utensil Race", there was no "Meiki".
This was because of google translate and babel fish back in the day spewed out "Utensil Race" when you entered "名器".
Kanojo Toys and everyone else named everything "Utensil Race" back in the day. (There's a UK shop to blame for this)
Then came along the new Toy Demon and their army of porn banners.
I remember being bombarded at E Hentai(back before members can op out of ads), Fakku, and XVideos with Toy Demon banners saying something like "Meiki - as real as it gets" or "Meiki - most realistic fake pussy around".
My guess is that those ads got Toy Demon noticed because Kanojo Toys and everyone else changed their name to Toy Demon's "Meiki".
Phrases like "Proof of Meiki", "Goods of Meiki" and other "Meiki" names all first showed up on Toy Demon before eventually becoming "Meiki" XXX. (Can Toy Demon comment on this?)
Eventually it looks like every company in Japan started to use "名器" and "Meiki" to name their onaho like "Clone Meiki", "Complete Meiki", "Best Meiki", etc.

The distinction between KOKOS and NPG isn't as clear cut as you think either.
If you go to NPG's store in Shinjuku to look at their complete lineup, you'll noticed that NPG also repackaged KOKOS stuff under their own "名器" and other line.
Of course NPG doesn't make it clear which ones are repackaged so it make things more confusing.

I think all of this is a moot point now anyways.
In Japan everyone and their mother is slapping "名器" on their stuff last couple of years.
I see it on everything when I go to M's in Akiba.
I also read a rumour on some Japanese boards last year talking about how NPG had already planned to stopped making new "名器" models.
The fact that there hasn't been anything new in over a year seems to back this up.



@Meikidemon000
I have that Meiki Angel 2 Soft White onaho you linked.
It's also repackaged under a different name in Japan.
I like the sensation but overall it's not big enough for me but at the same time it's too heavy.
That's a really good price for FHB to try out.
I think it's hard to say something is more real than another sleeve but I would go with the Maria.

[DEICIDA]

@MeikiGuru
You really live up to your namesake.  Thank you very much for pointing out where I was wrong and giving some more information on the matter.  It just goes to show just how much confusion there is in the market.

This was because of google translate and babel fish back in the day spewed out "Utensil Race" when you entered "名器".

It seems like some websites are still using translation engines for some products these days haha.

The distinction between KOKOS and NPG isn't as clear cut as you think either.

Yes I remember seeing a hip from KOKOS under the NPG products on a Japanese website.  I just wanted to point out that they are different brands, but I did fail to mention the repackaging.

Thanks again MeikiGuru.

Also @Meikidemon000
I'd like to iterate that the Maria would be more realistic because it is single-layered and in my experience the single-layered toys are less intense and more smooth for more realism.  The most realistic one I have is probably the NPG 002 Nao Yoshizaki which is a single-layered onahole.