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[DickGrayson]

Hello TD forum ,

In the next few days, I am either going to purchase the Half Hip or the EPH, price is no issue, and I am looking for sensation/realism (aren't we all)  over anything else. Here is what I have gathered from the past few days of research in regards to these two hips for sale in the ToyDemon store, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong, and also give me information so I can decide!

Pure Hip (Honorable Mention) - cheapest option, however not suitable for me personally because it is the smallest of the three in size and weight, other than that it has great sensations for both entries and is super easy to clean. Because I want something heavier this is not an option.

***Half Hera vs Extreme Pleasure Hip Differences***
-Heating, due to not having any electronics like motors/speakers, dipping this hip or the EPH in a full sized tub with hot water or on a warming blanket would be the best way to heat them up for realism, and if you are lazy you can wait with them both in the bathtub until they are ready and have your way with them right there. So no difference between the two in heating up, no winner.

-Visual Appeal, the Half Hera is more sexy looking than the EPH, due to much more definition and detail on the pussy and back. The Half Hera lays flat almost like a piece of furniture, until you are ready to abuse it. Just glancing at it will make you want to jump on top of it and hit it from the back, both holes furiously, with heavy death metal playing in the background. While this sounds like a good thing, wouldn't it also limit the amount of positions and angles you can enjoy with it? It looks like by the very physical design of it, the preferred position, to lay the hip flat on the bed/table and hover over it, for a prone bone/doggy style position, but missionary or cowgirl would be very hard to do, where the EPH you can pick up and flip around to access both holes with equal easiness, due to its rounded, contoured design. It looks like I'm trading a lot of sex positions (jack of all trades/EPH) for mastery in a few (doggy/prone/Half Hera). So for Visual Appeal the HH wins, but for versatility, the EPH wins.
Has anyone had any luck using the Half Hera in positions other than ones where you are on-top of her?

-The weight, the Half Hera is possibly the heaviest hip that the Toy Demon store carries in stock? 14 pounds?!  I think the EPH is at 11 pounds, so not much difference there, but I want a heavy hip that can take a pounding and also be firm and sturdy, which brings me to my next point.

-The material (exterior), the EPH is a very jiggly hip, that can't stand on its own and will try to go the opposite way you are holding it, like a bowl of jello, meaning you have to work hard to keep her in place, with both hands lol! Where as with the Half Hera, it is a sturdier, firmer material that when you smack that ass, it won't take 30 seconds to stop moving around, and because it is heavier and firmer, it will feel more human like, because it is providing more resistance. I watched the ToyDemon video review of the EPH and the guy reviewing it had me laughing my ass off when he was struggling to hold that sucker in place! I wish there was a ToyDemon video of the Half Hera, but assuming I get the Half Hera, I'll do one for the good of mankind. I've also read some reports saying the EPH rips/develops tears rather easily.

-Cleaning, while I don't own either of these hips yet, the EPH looks like it would be tough to clean due to having both canals closed on their ends. On top of being on the heavier side of toys like the Half Hera, you would have to really have to lug these girls to a large kitchen sink or if not available, the bath tub. (Where upon cleaning you would get horny again and use it again with a wash cloth in one hand, and a firm piece of ass in the other, just kidding! ) Anyway, the Half Hera has the vaginal tunnel with an open end which can help for cleaning, but not on the anal side, so in terms of cleaning the Half Hera seems to win, except in the case where your "schlong is so long" that when you do bust some nuts in her, your "seed of life and happiness" goes out that opening and onto something that isn't as fun to clean, like your bedsheets, or your Pikachu plush toy next to your pillows!! (DONT JUDGE ME!) ;_;

Anyway, in conclusion, I want to buy one of these hips very soon, and I am hoping you guys can give me some opinions on either product or on what I've said above. I would really like more info on the differences between the tunnels, since that is the only thing that I couldn't get much information on, but then again the definition of what "feels good" varies from person to person, I like tightness and firmness, but if I can't get that info, then no biggie, I might just end up buying both! In the past I've only owned a top end flesh light, which I used for about 2 months and then promptly threw it in the trash, since it wasn't as mindblowing after 20 or so uses, and I was able to get my fix from a real girl. I'm not purchasing this hip because I can't get any, but because often as men, we just want to fuck something without having to listen to the yapping and emotional stuff that comes along with it. These toys are there 24/7, solely devoted to our pleasure anytime, with no objections, no complaining about being tired or not in the mood. Thank god for ToyDemon and sites like it, or else the world would be a much angrier place. *Gets off podium stand* Anyways, I think I am leaning toward the Half Hera as I really like doggy style positions, it's slightly heavier, easier to clean, and has more definition, but the Extreme Pleasure Hip has more sex positions and possibly better holes (due to a lot more 5 star reviews compared to the overall 4/5 on the Half Hera). If you need to ask me some questions to better help you help me, fire away!

[Universal]

I'd certainly say you have a real handle on the two hips.  I think all of your thoughts were fairly valid but Ill throw some thoughts.

Oh and I do not own either of these yet but have extensively researched them (backing out of buying twice) and have numerous onas from the makers of those products.

Also, I had a ton of FLs and understand the products very wellin relation to a lot of offerings here.


Ease of Use/Cleaning - You'll know better than us. I will say I feel they both aren't low maintenance and the bother of one over the other is not likely to be make or break. Expect to earn your Os by caring for her after. I have seen some people say they skip the non through holes in a duo because its so much trickier to clean. I understand it, especially if the rear does little for you but I view hips as a commitment so more tedious work comes with the territory.


Weight - Its hard to put into perspective but weight, even a pound or two adds up exponentially as you get into longer sessions/use time.  Your body is diverting the bulk of its resources to getting you off. As you go deeper down the rabbit hole, your muscles fatigue, sometimes you tremble a little, your rests become more frequent. Floating on the tip of orgasm and having  pleasure device go from working FOR you to AGAINST you is probably the biggest buzz kill there is, save your elderly relatives jumping out of the closet for a surprise party.  Obviously different positions tax you differently. Consider how much lifting time you'll be doing to see if a pound or two may make a big difference.

Positions - I agree that the Hera is more dialed in as to how to use her. Be careful though thinking the EPH is the Wild West though. From having dolls with similar posing, angles, Id say you're maybe getting one more "good to great" position out of the EPH and maybe another "well, this is workable I guess"  Also, you'll tend to gravitate more towards what you consider her sweet spot.  If youre a cowgirl guy, the missionary doesn't need to be mind blowing as well as it's likely your quick change up. EPH seems to be a cowgirl girl and the weight really helps sell the illusion. Missionary would work great as well, it just seems like you could do similar with other options and you aren't using the weight feature as much.

Again, I think you are spot on in that the Hera is the doggy queen while the EPH's cowgirl would shame Heras.  Missionary is an EPH win but Ive never seen anyone really mindblown by it. And her doggy just isn't doggy enough IMO. (leg issue) For me doggy is an "accept no substitutes" proposition.  I'd  always chose the best doggy for doggy even at the cost of other flexibility.  Even an average to slightly above doggy wouldn't do anything for me.

Materials - This is where the divide lies imo.  EPH is Meiki soft whereas the Hera is firmer.  Firmer is not "worse." It's like pizza toppings every has a favorite (and some reasoning behind that)  I think your FL history (and Im assume you use your hand more than infrequently now) would make it easier for you to adjust to firmer toys than those who have a bunch of softies right now. It feels like, to me, its easier to adjust DOWN in firmness than it is to adjust UP.  Plenty of people have Meikis and a Kokos hip without conflict. I can't see an EPH owner with a bunch of harder sleeves though. Tough to imagine.

Durability - Important but remember first and foremost you have to want to use it for it to ever break down.  Ive seen some pretty long in the tooth EPH photos in the forums. The Heras/Pure Hips/Cherry 2s seem to age better.  But again, this matters not if you dont mesh with the Hera. 

The rest is that ambiguous draw you have internally to one or the other for whatever reason that you do. It's the ultimate tiebreaker and how you best live with whatever outcome your decision yields. (I think both of these are close enough you aren't going to feel better or worse for having chosen for your own reason than choosing the most popular)

Here's my fors and against:

Hera

For: Mostly doggy action. Fantastic anal canal (same as the Tong GGO, which Ive had for a long time) Firmer so more "pushback." Aesthetically more pleasing by a margin imo. (which from across the room would draw you over?) Main toy that really needs to stand up to a lot of use. A little easier cleaning.

EPH
 
For: Mostly cowgirl. Solid to great missionary (depending on tastes.) Soft soft soft so likely slower and longer sessions (which will likely be more intense (not better) orgasms.) Fantastic butt jiggle. Just a little more luxurious feel at the cost of some but not a ton of durability. 

As Im sure you've noticed from your research, they both a really great products and pretty similar save for a few differences you've mentioned.  I think positions would be my first consideration.  Looks second. And soft v. hard a distant third. (I think youre a prime candidate to adjust well to either)

Also Id chose your lube dependent on which you chose. I think Peace is a great value and would harmony well with Hera. Probably want to pony up for Osawa L Potion if you go EPH. She lets the more delicate textures through.

Thems my thoughts.

[Universal]

I reread your post to make sure my first impressions held up and they did.

Everything about what you've said makes Hera your girl.

I think the things you mentioned with the EPH are more second guessing of a major purchase than concerns.

Hera just makes so much sense here. You like the looks, her doggy is superior to any hip imo, rear canal is top shelf once you break the material in, and shes soft enough that unless you currently live in the soft Meiki zone regularly, you aren't missing out and she'll give you feedback EPH can't.

I'd order the Hera if I were you and unless it was a total failure (it wont be) don't worry about the EPH and instead progress towards soft-ish sleeves.

Hera's your girl. Feels like you're feeling that too. 

[DickGrayson]

Wow Universal, thanks for the two in depth and thoughtful replies. After doing some more thinking on it and combining that with your posts info, I also agree that the Hera is the hip for me! As a matter of fact I have just pulled the trigger and ordered that sweet piece of ass! Because doggy is so important to me the EPHs leg issue(lack of legs), would def be a problem, as you pointed out. :3 Also thanks again for the lube suggestions, I hadn't thought about that and I'll actually pick up both to include in my review of the Hera once I've given her a few test runs.  Oh and to answer which would draw me over, it would be the Hera, it's just begging to be used, ass up (imaginary face) down, ready for some loving.
Time to head off to a Christmas Eve party, happy holidays everyone!

[Universal]

Wow Universal, thanks for the two in depth and thoughtful replies. After doing some more thinking on it and combining that with your posts info, I also agree that the Hera is the hip for me! As a matter of fact I have just pulled the trigger and ordered that sweet piece of ass! Because doggy is so important to me the EPHs leg issue(lack of legs), would def be a problem, as you pointed out. :3 Also thanks again for the lube suggestions, I hadn't thought about that and I'll actually pick up both to include in my review of the Hera once I've given her a few test runs.  Oh and to answer which would draw me over, it would be the Hera, it's just begging to be used, ass up (imaginary face) down, ready for some loving.
Time to head off to a Christmas Eve party, happy holidays everyone!

Glad to be of help fellow Demon. 

Im glad you felt sure enough to pull the trigger. You made the right call. I think time will bear that out.

Just a friendly tip, if the rear is anything like its single version Tong, you need the thicker of the lubes you have and don't be stingy. Also, for me there was a shocking break in period. The first few rides were rough but then it opened up just right. So if it doesnt hit right off the bat, do give it some time before passing judgement.

[AbrahamLincoln]

Just a quick bump of this to ask Universal - it's confirmed that the Half Hera anal canal is the same as Tong Ggo? I was considering the Tong Ggo, but already own the HH2...

[Universal]

Just a quick bump of this to ask Universal - it's confirmed that the Half Hera anal canal is the same as Tong Ggo? I was considering the Tong Ggo, but already own the HH2...

I own the Tong, not the Hera so I can't say for certain but, to my eyes, the two are eerily similar. You can google pictures of the tong box and see how the design mimics the hera (same snug zones, etc)

Design isn't all there is to sensation though. The Hera brings a weight that the tong simply cannot. For my purposes, I felt they were identical enough I'd not need both (nor was I much of a fan of Kokos vages)

Of course, do your own research but that was my conclusion (which you may or may not reach yourself)