Search

[rahrahrah]

I have a ZXY and it is my favorite so I want another dual layer but not something too close to the ZXY. I tried the sarah next but it just felt too smooth and I didn't like it. I am looking at the Julia+, Monster Wet Real, Haruna Hana and the D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru.

Are any of these good enough and different enough from what I have or should I just stick with my ZXY?

[Universal]

I have a ZXY and it is my favorite so I want another dual layer but not something too close to the ZXY. I tried the sarah next but it just felt too smooth and I didn't like it. I am looking at the Julia+, Monster Wet Real, Haruna Hana and the D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru.

Are any of these good enough and different enough from what I have or should I just stick with my ZXY?

Personally, ZXY adds just a touch of softness that the Julia can't. Its that last 5% of the experience which has me going back to the ZXY again and again.

Julia is great but whereas Zhang is about her humps, Julia is more whole penile sensation. She really encourages deep thrusts and rewards every part of you for doing so. I'd say she wires me up better than Zhang but Zhang is more familiar to me (i.e. natural) If you know you are into the dual layer intensity, firmness, and overall experience, Julia is not a ZXY in different clothing. They only overlap if you haven't determined what your likes are (where you should be trying for lots of variety to hit on something/determine your future course.) They are dissimilar enough to have both if you know the dual experience is to your liking and you want to explore further.

Sarah was the last of the dual layers iirc. I stayed away because of durability concerns. It presents an interesting problem you saying it was "too smooth." Was this with some use (they apparently break down internally very quickl) or from the get go?  Use...may just have been break down. Get go... well then definitely wise to avoid the single layers.

In the NPGs, have you vetted the YJY yet? Shes sort of Zhangs tighter but sort of milder half sister. Shes different enough to be worth having, similar enough to ZXY to be considered your "type."

Monster Wet is indeed a monster. Pretty durable for dual, certainly stimulating. Maybe not as soft as NPG but only matters if thats really youre thing. Good value too. If NPGs softness isn't high priority and your comitted to dualies,  a Monster Wet/Julia+ pairing would be killer. If I had to rank... Julia+ then Monster but its really down to personal preference which you just cant know until you try.

No experience with the Haruna Hana but its lower TD rating and depth on the best seller list gives me pause. It's made by EXE, like Julia, but that's not a kingmaker to me. I've not heard her come up much and she's currently out of stock. Personally, I wouldn't wait around for her. Get in on otehr stuff in the sale. You can research and if you need, snag her later.

D-Holes - My Dogma experience was nothing to write home about though it wasn't a dual layer and D-hole is really all over the board with their offerings it seems. The only one Ive heard come up with any frequency was their Eiro Chika. But that was said to top NPGs offering which certainly caught my attention. Shes not buried down the list so they're moving her at least some. The TD rating is good, the brand is neither here nor there.  My guess is shes probably a value target for you. My First Sexual Experience comes up a lot more and has a greater discount than her usual now. Not a dualy though. Intense for sure. Tight too. In the lower priced/value end of the spectrum, I probably wouldn't place as much stock in the dual vs. single layer difference. You're trying to avoid junk whereas on the higher end of the scale its more about personal preferences.

In that price range Id think FSE first an foremost, then its sort of clustered. D-hole Chika. Your D-hole. The Kupa Roa, even Innocent Younger sister all are worth a compare/contrast. The 17 Bordeaux I left out simply because its too rough for my taste and Im unsure of durability. It did have quite a bit of buzz for a time though.

Honestly, in this range I don't think you can go wrong sticking with your gut. Gamechangers aren't readily running about sub $35. Just go with solid ratings, reviews, and what gets your motor running.

[rahrahrah]

Yeah, I dunno what is up with the other sarah reviewers, I find the sarah to be strong and durable, the dual layer is really welded onto the single layer nicely. If you look closely on the pictures where they look into the hole, the ZXY and maria both have these vertical lines and the sarah has no texture, it is shiny and smooth.

I haven't considered the YJY and yeah the haruna is out of stock and the d-hole is only 5 inches long so forget those. So that leaves me with YJY, Julia+ or Monster Wet Real. I can't tell what is going on with the Monster except that is has lots of curves. I hear the Julia+ is great but I also hear that it is not as good as a meiki or very similar to the ZXY or too stimulating, it is confusing.

Like with fleshlights is is obvious to tell that each one will feel differently but is that noticeable with the ZXY/YJY/Julia+?

[Universal]

Yeah, I dunno what is up with the other sarah reviewers, I find the sarah to be strong and durable, the dual layer is really welded onto the single layer nicely. If you look closely on the pictures where they look into the hole, the ZXY and maria both have these vertical lines and the sarah has no texture, it is shiny and smooth.

First batch was nightmarish. That scared off a lot of people. It also left only the hearty or foolish few to try later batches. Myself, in looking over the reviews, felt like there were still too many failures reported even in the more recent reviews. Now are these reviews of the first batch done later? Cant say. I assume most review rather close to when they buy. Many rave about her feel. The rapid nature of the breakdowns though really were hard to not notice.

I haven't considered the YJY and yeah the haruna is out of stock and the d-hole is only 5 inches long so forget those. So that leaves me with YJY, Julia+ or Monster Wet Real. I can't tell what is going on with the Monster except that is has lots of curves. I hear the Julia+ is great but I also hear that it is not as good as a meiki or very similar to the ZXY or too stimulating, it is confusing.

Well that narrows down things nicely.  YJY is Zhangs half sister. Noted for her tightness, some complain they went bland inside. Personally, I wouldn't call it bland, it just doesn't have a super feature like the ZXYs hump. I think YJY is as good or even better than ZXY depending on what you need most. She just doesnt have Zhangs publicist nor some unmistakable feature like the hump that everyone notices and therefore can talk about.

Monster is pretty intense. Less soft than NPG and certainly less natural feeling. Its still fantastic, very soft, and very realistic, just not as much as the heavy hitters. It doesn't coddle you like though. Youre going to feel intensely great with it with less work than a Meiki. And while Im not at the long time ownership stage, mine sure feels like itll outlast anything pf the dual NPG has made. And by a margin.

Like with fleshlights is is obvious to tell that each one will feel differently but is that noticeable with the ZXY/YJY/Julia+?

I was deep into fleshlights and culture. I found that while they looked vastly different, there were really only 3 tiers of sensation and within a tier was a shit ton of muddled mess. Other than lotus nodes and deep ribbing, nothing really stood out during use. And combination sleeves? No way to know which were going to rock or suck w/o getting them.

If you could somehow blind test the ZXY, YJY and Julia, you'd easily be able to tell a difference. And if I was to give you a defining feature to put to the name:

ZXY - Hump, YJY - tightness, Julia+ - full length stimulation

you'd easily be able to name which one you were in even on your earlier tries.

From what you've posted so far, Id say Julia+. Shes in the same family as the Meikis (dual layered, pretty intense) but shes like a cousin. A hot, wild, crazy passionate cousin...

Who really likes you to run deep and rewards you for it.

[Nihonfan]

My subjective view is that Majic Eyes products has the most advanced dual layers regarding Quality aka durability. Don't know the sensations compared to Meikis though since it really depends on yourself. I have a Sarah about a year ago and the quality is horrible but sensation was the best I had so far (after 3 uses it was gone though).

[crux]

Magic Eyes isn't too bad for middle of the line onaholes. Just watch out for which series and which variation. Some magic eyes products are above and beyond others in the series. TD rating I find to be a very decent guide to look at. Unlike other sites, it actually seems to reflect the actual product. Beware the Kupa Roa, in comparison to any Euro/American toy it beats it hands down, but it pales in comparison to other and newer onaholes. It doesn't have as much sensitivity as others as it is really smooth. Use it for a long period you feel practically nothing and it is VERY easy to overlube the poor girl. It isn't horrible, but it could have been better.

A quick question though. I have always wanted to give the Meiki Sarah a go, but am unsure of quality and durability of current iterations. If you have a Sarah (no older than 3 months) can you leave a comment about overall quality and feel in comparison to other Meiki's, Magic Eyes and Toys heart products?

[Universal]

Magic Eyes isn't too bad for middle of the line onaholes. Just watch out for which series and which variation. Some magic eyes products are above and beyond others in the series. TD rating I find to be a very decent guide to look at. Unlike other sites, it actually seems to reflect the actual product.

A quick question though. I have always wanted to give the Meiki Sarah a go, but am unsure of quality and durability of current iterations. If you have a Sarah (no older than 3 months) can you leave a comment about overall quality and feel in comparison to other Meiki's, Magic Eyes and Toys heart products?

Crux, I've got a fresh Sarah (NPG), a Monster Wet (M Eyes), and a First Sexual Experience (Toys Heart) coming so I can hopefully be of some help. Make up a list of questions/things to look out for and PM me. (or anyone else that has them for that matter) You'll probably have to remind me at least once though. I'm gonna be all over the map for the next few weeks. 

[crux]

Honestly, I think we need a consolidated post on recent iterations of some of the Meikis. The ZXY and Ozawa are obviously reviewed enough, but most of the others are not given much thought outside of the initial release which is normally messed up as all hell.

The ONLY thing no one ever reviews is the damn clone Meikis. To be honest, I am damn tired of people just saying it is softer and should be as good as the others. That leaves us with practically nothing.

Maybe in a few months I might splurge, but I have bought too much these last few months and I might have to lock my credit card away for any future browsing of the actual site, lol. Maybe I might splurge a little come Income tax refund.

[Universal]

Honestly, I think we need a consolidated post on recent iterations of some of the Meikis. The ZXY and Ozawa are obviously reviewed enough, but most of the others are not given much thought outside of the initial release which is normally messed up as all hell.

The ONLY thing no one ever reviews is the damn clone Meikis. To be honest, I am damn tired of people just saying it is softer and should be as good as the others. That leaves us with practically nothing.

Maybe in a few months I might splurge, but I have bought too much these last few months and I might have to lock my credit card away for any future browsing of the actual site, lol. Maybe I might splurge a little come Income tax refund.

Get out of my head Crux. It's freaking me out...

Yeah, Im working on a consolidated post as we speak. I'm just too exhausted from trying to help out while shopping myself to be of much value right now. It's coming though. Lots of good things are.

And the Clone Meiki is the very next thing to buy on my wishlist (I pulled it in favor of an Meiki EXP (for a very specific reason)

If memory serves, there was an xmas/new years sale 2 years ago and an "end of the word sale" last year so we *hopefully* will see another sale then.

Clone Meiki, hopefully some toybags (god those being out sucked), and a Tenga Red will be on my list. Im sure Ill pile more on it by then but thats my current "next girl up" plan.

[crux]

For Tengas, from what I gather, flipholes for the larger sized people, 3d for average to smaller. Seems to be what the reviews suggest. Black might also be better than the red.

[Universal]

For Tengas, from what I gather, flipholes for the larger sized people, 3d for average to smaller. Seems to be what the reviews suggest. Black might also be better than the red.

My bad. Tenga Red Lotion. It's gonna be awhile before I can reintroduce any hard surfaces into my play (I was stuck in FL prison for too long. I lost my mind.)

[rahrahrah]

A quick question though. I have always wanted to give the Meiki Sarah a go, but am unsure of quality and durability of current iterations. If you have a Sarah (no older than 3 months) can you leave a comment about overall quality and feel in comparison to other Meiki's, Magic Eyes and Toys heart products?

I have a sarah that is about 2 months old. Quality and durability is great. I wouldn't pay attention to a few people who were too large and got a small tear in their meiki or turned it inside out and blamed the product.

Sensation wise, it is tighter, the camel toe is cool and it is a lot smoother, softer and has less texture than the other meikis. Not my thing but some people really like it.