Search

[z]

Hi, I'm going somewhat all-out for Black Friday. I was going to splurge on some Fleshlights for Black Friday, but after discovering this site and doing some reading, I've decided my money is better spent here. The only toys I currently own are the Fleshlight Sex In A Can Lady Lager and Sukit Draft, so I'm sure it'll be quite an experience switching over. I will most likely buy two to four toys, budget being fairly flexible. I'm searching for the dream combination here.

Some info/preferences: depending on arousal, I'm about 13 cm (a little over 5 inches) in length and 12.5 cm girth. I vastly prefer hands free masturbation with towels, blankets, pillows, in between the bed, etc. I would like to be able to bottom out in at least one of my girls. Are any (shorter?) sleeves capable of bottoming out in this fashion, without forcing it by using the toy with my hand? Realistic texture is a highly important, but not absolutely dominating factor in my choices.

I'm pretty set on the Meiki Pure Hip, and heavily considering Zhang Xiao Yu and Maria Ozawa (supposedly must-haves). Also, thoughts on some of the cheaper sleeves like ToysHeart Innocent Younger Sister and D-HOLE Eiro Chika? The Magic Eyes Monster Wet Real is also appealing for its extreme stimulation and moderate price.

For their tightness, I'm interested in the following: ToysHeart First Sexual Experience, Meiki Virgin Sister, D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru, and Yen Jyu Yi. I read that the Seventeen Evo breaks down quickly and is rather unrealistic, otherwise that sounds intriguing as well. I'm going to guess that YJY is the favorite here, but could I save a little and get a similar effect with a less expensive girl?

How does the Pure Hip compare to some of my other choices? I'm trying to avoid overlapping similar textures/feelings. Will I regret not trying ZXY and Maria Ozawa if I just get the Pure Hip and go for cheap alternatives? I'm thinking about going for the Pure Hip and YJY for now, but First Sexual Experience/D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru, Monster Wet Real, and ZXY are so enticing. Should I drop the Pure Hip and grab a bunch more sleeves? It sounds like it's really worth the money, especially at the discount price. Any suggestions on my choices or good toys I've missed?

[Universal]

First off, welcome Z 

Congrats on having the smarts to pass on FLs and try Meikis instead. I was in the FL camp for 10+ years. When I got my first Meiki (ZXY) I knew I was borked. I gave it a solid year before I chucked my 1k plus worth of stuff. In the end, everything about Meikis suited me better than even the best of my FLs.

I found your story interesting because it seriously mirrors the path I took. And I just blew $300 more here so more similarities indeed.

First, For you, my A+, #1, must buy is the Julia+ by EXE. It is about as similar to a Meiki as they come, lower cost, and a tad more stimulating than most offerings. This is important because Ive found FLs really hammer at you stimulation wise (what they lack in material softness and variety they try to make up for with sheer force (super ribs, mega dots/bumps, lotus chambers, etc) so more subtle Meikis at the start lead to some disappointment. Id say Julia+ is my 1st time recommendation to just about anyone, esp. anyone with any FL experience. Its a fantastic buy in its own right and I feel at the very very least one should have it by their 4 or 5th sleeve pretty much no matter what else they have.

Second, Meiki Plush. Get it. It is the best value of anything on this site by a wide margin. Whatever sleeves do end up your favs, this will improve. Hips are good and have their place but I find them far more niche than Id like at that price. And honestly, if you are just starting out, the best thing for you is variety to help you get a sense of the direction you are best traveling in (dual layers, singles, ultra softs, smalls, etc etc etc)  I paid full price for my Meiki Plush and have gotten double its money worth easily. At its current price (stay up until 12AM CST to get one, its seriously worth that commitment) I honestly cant comprehend not getting it. I'd say it and two very different type sleeves would be enough to survive the apocalypse.

Third Now this is where things get interesting.  Personally, Im a believer in the variety concept. Pretty much trial and error is how you find you beloved (and her hot, accommodating sisters  )  Here I would go with a Meiki but not the ZXY (its  utterly fantastic but similar enough to the Julia that I really can't recommend it just yet.)  Something of the softer, milder variety is in order.  Many suggest the Osawa and I don't think they're wrong. I, however, would go a little more stim while staying in the single layer variety.  My choice? Meiki Hibiki 008      Long slow rides are fantastic and everyone needs a toy in that range sooner than later. Just, early on in a collection I found it counter to the goal. When Osawas and other low, slow, softish-ies, really shine is when you know your body, know the Meiki types, and can put all that knowledge together. My BEST Os are with low and slow types. But they are work (fun work  ) and didn't really come about until I had sufficient knowledge.
Hibiki is nice in that she's a tad bit more intense so therefore a lit bit more of a hybrid than Osawa. Others in the numbered series are good too but IMO Hibiki has a little more durability than her sisters at the trade off of single layered. (Sara is a known troublemaker, jury is still out on Rola but Im inclined to indite.)

Ok...still with me? I'm not gonna do the math (you can fit that puzzle together better yourself anyway) but we should be nearing the $300 limit.

Next spend? I imagine everyone's gonna shit a brick as it goes against my value concept about as much as you can but...

Fourth, Maria Osawa Love Potion   The assumption here by most will be "because it's the best." Well, sorry to disappoint fellas, that's not why.

To me, Maria's BEST quality, especially for those starting out is, she doesn't get in the way. Whereas the NPG love potions are solid performers (once you learn their quirks) with their dual layer toys, they can easily drown out the single layers features. Maria is fantastic and may just end up being your fav lotion when you learn all there is to learn (and theres tons, trust me) But she's a very solid lotion with a larger "margin of error" than her contemporaries.  This is why I always suggest it first and foremost (and I KNOW lube. Seriously. I have a compulsion  Like $1k's worth of a compulsion ) 

Ok, so Im pretty sure I'm past threshold so Im wrapping up my "ideal" section here. But, as options are a needed part of life, I give them to you as well (ain't I swell?  )

So my greatest offense is likely blowing up your hip idea. Sorry, it had to be done IMO. Silver lining though... you can have 80% of the hip experience (you lose the heft/weight) with 150% more flexibility. Impossible you say? Let me introduce...

Tong GGO  So to me the bonus I see a lot of guys focusing on in the hip is the rear entry. The Tong GGO is a standalone of that rear entry in most respects. It has tightness to spare (seriously, you have to break it in, even if you are modestly endowed) and cleanup is far easier. Its of a medium firmness (which gives you a feel for that type) and if you dislike it, youre out $50 not $150.  Ive have the Tong from the get go and think its the savvy way to go about rear entry options. I can pair up any type of sleeve I want with it giving me my fav vaginal canal with it rather than whatever built into the hip.

A Tong + two sleeves of my choosing wins out value wise over a hip.  I give back 20% of the experience but get near unlimited flexibility in choice and another canal to boot. Win win.

My First Sexual Experience You mentioned tightness and smaller sizes so this would be my go to. I think the tong will quickly alert you as to your feelings re: tightness but this one can too. It is a small toy so not a ton of depth of penetration. But it brings the stimu, thats for sure. Incredibly reasonably priced, Id tack it on even if it overed my budget. I consider it a bit on the firmer side (though Im a softy lover for sure) which lets you learn what thats like but not in a bad way. For me, Id say its 75% of the experience of the big girls (NPG series Meikis) at half the price. If you don't get one at first, don't skip it for too long.

Meiki ZXY So here's a shocker...  the only Meiki I own two of (soon to be 3) and one of if not THE most recommended Meiki and its not on my list? WTF eh? 

I love Zhang. Favorite toy? Until some princess somehow knocks her off, she will be my Queen (many have tried, all have failed) To me, she is intensity mixed with just enough softness as to not be overwhelming. Full disclosure though, she was also my first Meiki (so I learned with her and that has to play a part in it as well) Julia+ is right there with the intensity and   honestly, she gives a far wider range of sensations (Julia is a whole penile experience whereas ZXY is more about her hump and my wanting her familiarity) and she holds up better too (Zhang is about as good durabilty wise as dual layers Meikis get. Solid but sort of unspectacular) Julia is on a whole nother level. As Ive had them different lengths of time I cant compare one to one but my rough guess is Julia will outlast Zhang is at least a near 2:1 ratio. So Id need a new Zhang in at least 1/2 the time of Julia.  Julia cost less and has as much feeling, more variety in feeling, and more durability. Zhang has this unique 10% about her experience I just can't quit (her humps, her humps, her lovely lady lumps...   ) I know I pay a premium (in cost and durability) for it but feel most people shouldn't, especially at first. 

YJY Full disclosure, I own a YJY but have yet to use it much. From what Ive gathered, she is a half sister to Zhang which makes her a-ok in my book. She brings a tightness Zhang lacks but Im not a tightness fiend and believe toys such as the Tong and First Sexual Experience bring that to the table better. (you'll quickly know if you like tight with those. Only the smallest males could somehow avoid it)   Zhang will always be recommended by me > YJY because the ZXY is simply something everyone needs to experience for themselves once they get a feel for whats about (intense stuff, low and slows, tight stuff, and different firmnesses) YJYs place is if you gone down the Julia+/Zhang path and desire perhaps more tightness at the sake of all out intensity.  Shes likely in my top 10 but wouldnt be a category leader IMO.

Ok, well this thing has already gotten long enough Imma take shit about it from the fellas so Im gonna start winding down...

First, maybe most importantly, there are really no wrong choices. At best some *may* be better for you than others but ultimately you have to go down the path (as we all did) and figure it out for yourself.

In my suggestions, I always try to save people the "if I only knew what I know now" feeling Ive had throughout this process.

Here's my humble advice to past "me." Hopefully someone will find it useful.

Opposites attract: Chose an intense Meiki? Try a mild one next. Firm? Try soft. NPG? Consider the top tier offerings of other companies. At the start, you want as many and varied options as possible to get a feel for yourself and likes/dislikes.

Consider value: When two options are similar but one's cost would hinder you from adding something else. Nothing slows down the journey quite as much as dropping bank on an expensive dud. Buy in groups, especially early on. Its a mental thing yes but its so much more tolerable getting a dud and an okay sleeve than just a dud. (It just seems like every early on order needs to have at least one "win" in it)

You are you:  Take any advice offered but don't make it the gospel. If the supposed *better* of the options doesn't get you as excited as much as some other factor (say, the girl on the box, whatever)  go with your gut. Meiki-ing is very much a mental and imaginative activity. (you are hopefully imagining making love to a beautiful woman rather than excited by nailing a hunk of rubber. (if not, congrats! You have a rubber festish.  Not a single orgasm Ive ever had came from me thinking "oh yeah, youre the forum's favorite baby...oh yeah" A few came from the girl or the box or any number of other odd reasons I wont admit to publicly.

You are going to fuck up GLORIOUSLY at least once : Often multiple times. (if you don't? Congrats. Youre the first!  Its part of the process. Something you just knew was gonna rock will suck or you'll hate one of the golden maidens. Do try to minimize it, of course, but don't live in fear of it. The failures make the successes so much better since they feel hard won.


When it clicks, you'll know. Strange to say Meikis are like relationships but they are. When everything clicks, it just does and you know it. At which point, feel free to follow your heart wherever it takes you. (go off grid, buy multiples and backups of the same thing, whatever insanity you feel like) The forums are great and do stop by for advice from time to time. But know you have achieved Zen. It will guide you now far better than we.

So, while there's all sorts of thoughts, opinions, advice, what have you, there really aren't any wrong answers. (even those directly opposed to mine!  )  Probably best to stick with the general consensus of whats good at first, give yourself plenty of varied options as you go along, then branch out as soon as you feel the need to.

It's, quite literally, the most fun you'll ever have fucking up! (or down... or sideways... or doggie... or spoons! Can't forget spoons.  )

Don't take it all too seriously and...

Have a blast.

Universal

[z]

Wow, absolutely fantastic post! Way more than I was expecting. I was considering the Julia + and Ootsuki Hibiki, but wasn't sure what set them apart from others. Watched some more reviews and they both look very promising.

The hips are so appealing to me. Watched the review on XXX Branded's YouTube channel and read some reviews, etc. and I love the way the ass looks and how your balls slap on it.

In contrast, the plush doll seems like I can achieve a similar effect with makeshift devices. It just seems like a very high price point for what it provides. After more research, the plush is definitely more attractive to me now than it was when I began my research, though. Can you (or anyone else) speak to this at all?

Also, I already had Maria's Love Potion in my cart hehe. Forgot to mention it. Sounds great.

Seriously gotta keep this short cuz I'm running late, but I'm going to spend all night doing research after work tonight. Thanks a ton for your info man, seriously appreciate the effort. I think you've swayed me on some purchases.

[Universal]

Happy to help. And not to hijack youre thread but if anyone else has questions, feel free to ask either here (cause Ill see it  ) or PM if you must. (I prefer out in the open so everyone benefits)

As to you Z, thanks for more info. Anything you offer up gives me more to assist with.

Hips - Your level of commitment to the concept is obviously higher than mine. Ill go through my thought process you agree or deviate as needed.

First, the ONLY hip I'd consider is the extreme and I think its $250 now. I know NPG Meiki soft is my happy place and fear the Pure Hip wouldn't work out (Ive bought toys from the Pure hips maker and they were just too firm for my taste) $250 lays waste to your budget.  For example, my last order was 5 sleeves (cheapest of which was $30) and 3 high end lotions for $300ish.  I can't fathom giving up the bulk of that for a single item. Julia+, the hip and a Maria is over $300. Not much variety for such a spend either IMO.


I know the XXX review of which you speak. IIRC he speaks towards the end of the difficulties in care and cleaning with it and how they've lessened his usage. That doesn't mean its a bad buy, just something that really needs to be considered.


A hip has no equal, you are correct. But for me it is life-similar more than lifelike (Ill explain) They are proportional to the size of a very very small woman or worse (Im not going there) This alone would kill the illusion for me but it doesnt for many. Its weight and heft is unmatched by anything else so if that's integral to you getting off, its a hip or bust.


Its weight does make for some use and cleaning challenges though. Its not a heavy object per say but having to hold it up over you (even the pure hip youll want to change positions with) for a time will become semi taxing which kills the mood/fun.  And you've got the size/weight to deal with when cleaning. From what Ive read from others, it can be a real bear.


Hips are also one note. The canal will always be what it is until it isnt (through wear/use) If that canal happens to be your favorite  or even one of a few, you win. If it's not though, you've crapped out big time.


Switching between holes - I've seen this noted by many and while I totally get the allure, I don't partake in it. I've been lucky enough to have the experiences Ive had in life and through that I've learned that switching holes in real life isn't particularly hygienic (anything going from back to front needs to be freshly wrapped) and far more exciting in concept than in real life. MY fantasies tend to be an extension of my reality. I enjoy each part of my ladies fully but in turn. To fantasize or practice that in my play would be  too counter to what can or does happen in real life (and I guess it can be said I doubt Id find switching meshes with my pleasure and how it typically manifests)  And the Tong is supposed to be similar enough to the backdoor of the hip as to be considered a substitute, sans the heft of course.


You can certainly make a handsfree type setup from as lowly and economically as a shoe to a custom cutout/pouch in a good supportive pillow.  My d.i.y. for those who can't afford the Plush has been one but preferably two duck down pillows with the sleeve bound in or between them. I used it for some time. $20 bucks and it works. But the Plush is not just more elegant, its actually more practical. Its semi positionable. It has a push back/support that the pillow method doesn't really provide. And on some level, even though I don't droll over its features, I think it tricks my mind somewhat by being a familiar form, its curves, hips, thighs, etc. I agonized over the purchase. Used it twice. Haven't agonized over it since (and I paid full tilt)


If you don't think the plush will do it for you though, don't buy it just because I speak highly of it.  Its such a tough thing because its maybe the most "try it and you'll see" things on the site. Im obviously the converted.  But each persons situation is unique.


Personally, I still don't own a hip and I've dropped over a grand for sure. I know that what it does well isn't the thing I need most. And for $250, It pretty much has to be or else my money is better spent elsewhere.


Most people try the Osawa love potion at some point. You can do so at its cheapest price ever. Not a hard decision.


Ahh, I do love a good ball slap though I switch depths, speed, angles, just about every dimension possible when it coitus. Id get to enjoy the slap > 20% of the time so while its wickedly fun and totally unique to a hip, I wouldn't get enough out of it.


Glad you are feeling a little more solid in your choices. Thats all you can really hope for with these things. Personally, if you don't go plush, Id go makeshift but use the Plush money to widen your sleeve range and options.  Thats kind of a deeper discussion though so I wont pursue it now.


If the hip is just doing it for you, Id go NPG extreme hip, Julia+ (for some more intensity) and the Osawa lube.  It'd be over $300 but there's just no way I could suggest a hip, a lotion, and thats it.  But you know my feelings why. 

[z]

Okay, thanks so much for your input. I've decided to hold off on any big single-item purchases and get a variety of sleeves instead. I'll return later for a hip or the plush depending on what I think my needs are. I know a few of your favorites, but now that my budget has opened up a little, what others would offer the best variety in addition to Julia, First Sexual Experience, and Meiki 008?

[Universal]

Okay, thanks so much for your input. I've decided to hold off on any big single-item purchases and get a variety of sleeves instead. I'll return later for a hip or the plush depending on what I think my needs are. I know a few of your favorites, but now that my budget has opened up a little, what others would offer the best variety in addition to Julia, First Sexual Experience, and Meiki 008?

Hmm...

First: Julia+ (dual layer w/good intensity, rather soft.  Excellent value.)

Next: Hibiki (single layer w/ a little more umph than an Osawa or Chika. Softer than the Julia) Osawa/Chika are real possibilities here as well and do keep cost down if $$$ needed elsewhere.

Next: First Sexual Experience  (lets you try tightness and a firmer material as well. Pretty intense.) Tong GGO is also a real possibility. Bigger and a little more luxurious ride but ultra tight and would require some break in. But if you like big butts and you can not lie... 

At this point, diminishing returns can play a factor. Not saying it will, you just need to be aware of its possibilities. Your first 3 sleeves will likely be more impactful than the next 3 (you can only use them so much) And while now is THE time to buy whatever you might think you'd like in the foreseeable future, 6 sleeves just starting out is overload. Figuring out your hands free solution will give you a better idea in which direction to go.  From my experience, hefty girls like the Julia and ZXY are better suited for DIY projects. FSExperience would be tough and Tong would flat out suck trying to make work in a homemade hands free solution. Personally, Im still in the Plush camp here. Its cheaper than Ive ever seen right now and it would augment your purchases now and in future.

But if you gut doesn't feel it and you must go sleeve...

Meiki Zhang - Everybody needs to experience this one. She does overlap some of the qualities you have in the Julia but shes got plenty of traits all her own. Plus, if you come around here any at all, shes spoken about near infinitely and youre gonna wanna know what all the fuss is about/see for yourself sooner than later. This pick is as much or more about her mythos than it is sticking    with the variety theme. She's fantastic. It's sort of an either/or situation with her and Julia but the best way I can spin it is youre going to want both sooner than later. ZXY is the queen and Julia the new princess/possible heir apparent. Hold out on having both as reasonably long as you can.

Monster Wet Real would be a good bet as well. Its a good experience and truly different from the ZXY/Julia area. This pick is as much about getting you out of the Meiki zone and trying different things than it is sticking to a pattern. You won't know until you try is certainly truer than not with these things.

As for the rest, research what interest you and go with what you feel. Id say keep in mind just how many sleeves you'll be getting all at once. Personally, Id have ignored some of my better sleeves had I had so many to deal with at first. (Tong would never gotten close to breaking in for example. Julia probably would have gone underused too.)

As many have said, there are few wrong answers here. Take advice but do chart your own course some too. You have to live with all these girls afterall. 

[rahrahrah]

Plush+Maria+ZXY comes out to almost exactly $300. I have all 3 of those and they are my favorites. But the reviews on Julia+ say it is just about as good as the ZXY so you can save some money there and also get a Hbiki over a Maria. One of the meiki sisters is also a good single layer option for only $50 to fit into a budget.

As far as hips go, you should check out the XXXBranded review on the Cherry 2. In it he goes over about how the 20lb weight of the Pure Hip makes it kinda a pain to use and position. The pictures and videos of the hips are amazing and must be awesome to fondle but I don't know how good they are to actually fuck every day.

I got a cheap domestic hip years ago and I found it to be pretty stupid. You have to angle yourself around the hip instead of angling a stroker to however you want. The extra weight is more of a hindrance and makes it very awkward to clean. I wonder how many of these hip reviews still use their hip every day or went back to other toys because the hip was too much trouble.

As far as the plush goes...this is as low a price you will ever find for the plush. Toy Demon doesn't have big sales very often, they do have 10-15% site-wide sales but that's about it. The plush is worth every penny and then some.

Ever since I screwed a fleshlight I've wanted to make it hands free. You can put it between mattresses or wrap it in pillows or use the suction cup attachment or whatever, but the plush makes it so easy and gives you visual stimulation and something to grab onto. And the plush is something to hold onto and hug and cuddle! When I lie back and have the plush ride me by grabbing its hips, it is amazing. Looking at myself screw the plush in the mirror is very erotic. Biggest problem with a plush is that you cannot hide it; it won't fit under the bed and people will get curious and think something is cool in your giant brown box in your closet.

[z]

You guys made me reconsider the plush doll. I thought it was stupid at first and didn't look too much into it, but the XXX Branded review especially changed my mind. I'm going to get it.

My cart is as follows:
Meiki Plush Doll
Meiki Hibiki Ootsuki
Julia +
First Sexual Experience
Maria Ozawa Love Potion

Total: $329.45

I'm going to say fuck it since I'm already over my budget, should I get ZXY over Julia? The thought is that I will want to try ZXY in the future anyway because it's so highly regarded. Is it worth owning both? If I have Zhang for sensation and Hibiki for that really long session, where does Julia + fit in? A little more intense than Zhang? Would I be better off with a Monster Wet Real instead of Julia + to have four vastly different sleeves? This is so difficult!

Also, can anyone compare D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru to First Sexual Experience? I can't find a direct comparison. Might have to make another post about this one.

[Universal]

You guys made me reconsider the plush doll. I thought it was stupid at first and didn't look too much into it, but the XXX Branded review especially changed my mind. I'm going to get it.

My cart is as follows:
Meiki Plush Doll
Meiki Hibiki Ootsuki
Julia +
First Sexual Experience
Maria Ozawa Love Potion

Total: $329.45

I'm going to say fuck it since I'm already over my budget, should I get ZXY over Julia? The thought is that I will want to try ZXY in the future anyway because it's so highly regarded. Is it worth owning both? If I have Zhang for sensation and Hibiki for that really long session, where does Julia + fit in? A little more intense than Zhang? Would I be better off with a Monster Wet Real instead of Julia + to have four vastly different sleeves? This is so difficult!

Also, can anyone compare D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru to First Sexual Experience? I can't find a direct comparison. Might have to make another post about this one.

Well now you've gone and fucked it all up...

Kidding. 

Excellent choices, who IS your adviser. Brilliant fellow it seems.

I'm glad you came round to the Plush. Be ready at midnight and get one of the discounted 20. It's worth way more than they're asking.


ZXY and Julia are similar enough to work for concepts (like do you like intense, semi soft offerings) but different too. What brings me back to the ZXY is the little bit of softness she mixes in that Julia can't. What I lose is the whole penile experience Julia gives and rewards you for (really, tip to shaft and deep long strokes make for an experience no other sleeve has come close to matching for me)  I think the Hibiki will give you even more of a taste of softness than the ZXY. If you find yourself gravitating towards her, then the Zhang may just have been the better bet vs the Julia. But its so seriously close. Like one one hundredth of a second close in the Olympics. Technically theres a loser but by only the narrowest of margins. (and repeat the scenario and the results could easily go the other way) Not worth even thinking about let alone worrying over.

And the Zhang is always gonna be around unless NPG gets wiped off the map. It's been the bestseller on the site for as long as I can remember. Not that Julias going anywhere either but Zhang will be around until the apocalypse.

All your other concerns seem just like natural second guessing to me. ANY of the things that have been mentioned will be great (they are all quality products) especially since you are new to it all. My recommendations are simply a mix of highly regarded products that worked out well for me. Sort of a "if I could do over" list.  Even knowing the Zhang is my fav sleeve (I own 3) Id still tell past me to get the Julia+/My First Sexual Experience combo for near money to the Zhang. Variety is very key in the early goings. And those offer a great combination punch. A right jab then a left cross if you will.

Julia+/My First Sexual Experience combo

Lotion

Hibiki (for a taste of NPG)

Plush

That is a killer haul. I'd say you have 80-85% of whats possible with my own collection and I'm well over a grand in. 

There *may* be an end of year sale and there's often a Valentines sale so you may be able to snag an on sale Zhang at worst in 3 months.

And give yourself something to look forward too, seriously.  Got my Zhang first. Had to wait an eternity to get my Julia (she went crazy hot like overnight and couldn't be kept in stock) Had to wait for my Plush too. I was better for it.

And I assume you only have one penis. Three killer Onas and getting to rock them all hands free w/the Plush from the get go? I think boredom will be the least of your problems (fatigue, overuse, and friction burns all far far more likely)

Remember what's been said. Starting out there's really not one right choice. You are exploring. Just give yourself a variety of options (which you most certainly have) and you seriously will not go wrong.

[pyro]

Doing the same thing your doing.I am brand new at looking for the top newest..This is what I have come up with after hours of research being a beginner. for what its worth here it is.I will report back the results.I am a newb.Ohh this was under 300. With the black friday sales anyway.

Julia+
Omanko Monaka: Natsuhara Karen (for a quick deal)
Maria Ozawa Love Potion.
Mini Meiki® Long: Mai
Meiki® Zhang Xiao Yu
TENGA Hole Lotion Real (Red)
Soloflesh (water filled hip with the mini meiki insert)

[crux]

I would like to chime in on two quick points. More an addendum to what Universal already gave you, as he did most of my job here already.

For our size group, you might want to have a small look on the Dogma brand as well. Ridiculously cheap, ridiculously tight, yet absurdly well made. I currently ordered two more in the series this black friday, but I've tried the D-hole Shina Hikaru and it is hands down the tightest and is my favorite purchase purely in regards to value. The zxy has always been a favorite, but sometimes you will be surprised in finding those diamonds in the rough.
(Edit: Just noticed your request about comparing. Personally I have not tried that specific Toys Hearts onahole, but from reviews it seems to be a cheaper and tighter than some of their other series. Honestly, I think Shina was the better buy for me.)

In the Toys Hearts collections, I do have to make a quick shout out for the Erotic elder sister and Naive younger sister duo. They might be a tad pricey for the mid-range products, but they have three points that beggars most of their brand and practically any other onahole. 1) Great suction, 2) Easy cleanup, dries instantly, and can be turned inside out (just don't keep it that way), 3) Almost never have to use cornstarch and have possibly the best durability.


My final point is actually in regards to lube in and of itself. As always, never forget that a little goes a long way and that over lubing ruins many an experience. The one thing most don't realize is what the Japanese and Koreans long figured out, that thicker/slicker lubes allows you more sensitivity and for that reason they make it better than any other, aside from Germany.

The Maria Ozawa carries a strong scent that most have no issues with and is a thicker lube that is balanced between sensitive, not too sticky, and stays slick for longer periods. Later on you might want to try some of the thicker stuff as they can actually outshine the Ozawa. I've liked Moisty and a few other Toys Hearts sample lubes, and the Pussy Juicy (dumb name, I know) is held as the epitome of thick lubes by some. I'll personally grab that one next time it is available.

[meikifanatic]

Been well over a year since I purchased anything from Toydemon due to work, caregiving (of an elder) and lack of funds.  In fact, my ZXY (ordered mid-2012) had been sitting in it's original packaging and remained unopened until just recently.

After catching up on this forum after a long hiatus, I finally decided that, if nothing else, I had to at least take advantage of the $170 Meiki Plush sale ($60 discount from original) going on now.  It's still a LOT of money for me and the purchase was repeatedly put in and pulled out of my cart at least 10 times (since I was so indecisive) until I finally confirmed the purchase last night.  I'm amazed (and very lucky) that the product remained available for that long, considering the popularity and limited supply.  I added the Maria lotion as it's probably the product with the best bang for your buck and has for years been so highly rated.  I can't afford getting additional meiki onaholes so that'll have to do for now. 

Thanks to all the great reviews here onsite and particularly to this thread for sealing the deal on the Meiki Plush.   

[Universal]

Been well over a year since I purchased anything from Toydemon due to work, caregiving (of an elder) and lack of funds.  In fact, my ZXY (ordered mid-2012) had been sitting in it's original packaging and remained unopened until just recently.

After catching up on this forum after a long hiatus, I finally decided that, if nothing else, I had to at least take advantage of the $170 Meiki Plush sale ($60 discount from original) going on now.  It's still a LOT of money for me and the purchase was repeatedly put in and pulled out of my cart at least 10 times (since I was so indecisive) until I finally confirmed the purchase last night.  I'm amazed (and very lucky) that the product remained available for that long, considering the popularity and limited supply.  I added the Maria lotion as it's probably the product with the best bang for your buck and has for years been so highly rated.  I can't afford getting additional meiki onaholes so that'll have to do for now. 

Thanks to all the great reviews here onsite and particularly to this thread for sealing the deal on the Meiki Plush.   

First off, congrats on getting back up to speed quickly after a long hiatus. Imo, you've made as wise a decision as possible with your limited funds. 

The Plush just makes everything better. Your ZXY will sing when paired with the Plush. A neat little trick for her, buy some dollar store cling wrap and wrap it around the body, just below the "butt", twice.  Make sure you leave some overhang on the bottom. Twist this up then slowly twist/rock ZXY into place. She slides right in and the thinness of the cling wrap doesn't compress the canal like some other methods can.

As far as only being to start out minimally, don't sweat it. I made it through most of a year with only a ZXY and a single bottle of Osawa lotion to my name. Towards the tail in she started faltering a little. Still felt great just I could remember when she was out f this world.

If you find yourself working through your lube stores at too fast of a rate, seriously consider giving Peace (lotion) a chance. Its a killer value IMO and can make a great supplement to Osawa. (some days you just don't need all of Marias luxury to get off so you can use your day to day lube which in this case would be Peace.

You made great choices. We're glad your aboard. While I know funding might keep you away, don't feel like it has to.

Most here are insanely helpful and know what it's like having to stretch a dollar. And we've already spent the money so it's better for us for plenty of others to learn from our successes and misses.

 

 

[meikifanatic]

Thanks again for the excellent, detailed advice.  I'll be sure to make those easy adjustments to make the most of my adventures with the MPD.  Good to confirm that the ZXY can still fit the MPD, as the official product description Q&A states outright that the ZXY is too big. 

Of course, there is no finer example of the Where-There's-A-Will-There's-A-Way mantra than a bunch of horny guys with access to these types of recreational equipment.

Now to find some clothing for my 34C-24-34 companion.  I'm almost tempted to "borrow" some stuff from my gf as she's also a 34 large C but then that would be way too creepy.  I'm already having a devil of a time trying to find a space in the house to hide the Plush.  One of the users here, vspot, got this great little outfit for his doll - a blue "Dorothy" dress that looks amazing on his MPD so I might go there.  Oh, the possibilities...

[z]

I ended up ordering the Meiki Plush with some Maria Ozawa Love Potion at midnight, while continuing my research on sleeves. My final selection was quite a bit over budget, but it's alright because I just had to dip into my Newegg budget a little bit.

Meiki Hibiki Ootsuki - At first, I only gave Hibiki a brief glance before deciding against her. I did consider it, but the low number of reviews on the ToyDemon store page made me wonder. After Universal's recommendation I checked around some more and found that she is indeed better constructed than Maria Ozawa (being a far newer model, that makes sense). Hibiki retains her realism while adding slightly more sensation, at least that's the hope. Can't wait.

D-HOLE Shiina Hikaru - I originally discovered Shiina by reading crux's thread on lesser reviewed sleeves. There really isn't much info on her. She's got great reviews on the ToyDemon store page, though, and that was a big deciding factor in this purchase. Just thinking about the over-the-top tightness and short canal makes me as hard as I'll need to be in order to use this thing. I really wish there was a direct comparison between Shiina Hikaru and First Sexual Experience. Maybe I should order one and provide just that, as they do seem like very different experiences; dual layered versus single, and First Sexual Experience has the two inches or so of material in the back giving that rough stop.

Monster Wet Real - This one I'm least excited about, but I went ahead with it anyway to have that unique and highly stimulating ride. I'm sure it feels incredible from the reviews I've read, but for some reason it's a little harder for me to be as enthusiastic about this as I am with my other purchases. I think it's the blatant lack of realism. However, the Monster Wet Real should provide a vastly different feel from the others. Looking forward to it and I hope I eat my own words here. Plus it's fifteen bucks cheaper than normal. Heh, why not?

Meiki Zhang Xiao Yu - Saved the best for last. Tempting as she was, I turned my back on EXE Julia +. Zhang is just so adored that it felt shameful to choose Julia over her. Not to mention Julia seems like a downright pain to use with the Meiki Plush, even though ZXY isn't quite an easy fit. I'll end this by saying there are no words to describe how much I long to get inside this girl.

Edit regarding ZXY: I knew I forgot to mention something about Zhang. It was a sincerely tough call for me between ZXY and YJY. This was the hardest decision I had to make when searching for the right combo. The Meiki Yen Jyu Yi is still very attractive to me, and I will likely come back in the future to try her out. The reason I went with the tried-and-true Zhang Xiao Yu is because she is essentially the primary comparison of every other toy out there. Whether the sleeves are similar or not, her sensation is universally used to measure each experience a toy may offer. That is something I could not pass up. And thankfully, while some seem to believe ZXY and YJY are similar in feel, others say that they each offer a different type of stimulation based on tightness and texture, something which I will (most likely) happily shell out another $70 to $80 for in the future.

EDIT: Thanks to everyone for your posts, advice, insight, thoughts, suggestions, aid, guidance, knowledge, recommendations, reviews... and I'm out of synonyms. Truly appreciate your help. Oh there's another one.