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[lolop]

Hey there everyone. I'm not too experienced in the toy community so I wanted to get your suggestions on what my second toy should be.

I bought a fliphole white for my 18th birthday (best present of all  ) and as a first toy it seems pretty good (although I can't compare it to another toy nor a real woman). It gets the job done and can be quite stimulating. The problem I have noticed since I got it though is, it's not tight enough. I prefer to use my fliphole "hands free" and it doesn't help much the product is sort of "loose" around you. It seems to be more of a sloppy blowjob that an actual vagina. I understand Tenga is not out for simulating a vagina with their flipholes but instead to make it as pleasurable as possible, yet I still think tightness is an important aspect of a toy. I'm not too much bigger than average, I am around 6 1/2 inches in lenght, but I am more girthy than usual, I'm not sure if that affects anything...

Anyway, I've been planning to get a new toy, and I'm stuck between two options.

The first is the fliphole Black. From what I've read on reviews and the sort, the black is tighter, it's end sphere is larger, and is overall better, although the silicone is less soft    . I want to buy this one because I already have had a good experience with Tenga and feel that this will not be a disappointment

Then, my other option is to buy some kind of good quality Meiki, like the Maria Orizawa or ZXY, which are both for around the same price as the fliphole. I think these are probably tighter from looking at the design, and maybe are a bit better in the realism department. What do you all think?

I appreciate any suggestions. Hopefully I can decide this soon before I end up buying one of the 20-30 dollar parody onaholes (are those ever any good, like say the Ero chiki holes?)

Thanks! 

[johnhiggin]

In terms of sleeves, I have the fliphole white, black, red (my favorite of the 3 yet it is looser so not for you), the meiki Maria, meiki Sarah, and 4 tenga 3Ds  (module, polygon, pile, zen) though I had all 5 before I chucked the spiral out.

The fliphole black is definitely tighter than the white and more stimulating. Compared to the Meikis the Meikis are tighter given they are zero diameter canals yet in a way they might not feel as tight since the Meikis will just expand with your junk and don't really have a max limit (unless placed in something like say the meiki push doll which make them clearly tighter) so they can appear to not be as tight while the flipholes have the case to limit max expansion and of course are a softer material than the black which can also make a toy not feel as tight even if it is. I like the black yet I prefer the Meikis to it given they are far more realistic and just feel better to me.

I'd suggest looking at the Tenga 3D sleeves as to me they are superior to the flipholes and are a great bang for the buck. I think the Pile would probably be a good choice for you and you can easily squeeze them as much as you want to make them as tight as you want and the Pile design is very stimulating. The Module probably has the most noticeable texture yet it can be too stimulating at times for me while the Pile is close in texture yet doesn't over stimulate me.

[lolop]

In terms of sleeves, I have the fliphole white, black, red (my favorite of the 3 yet it is looser so not for you), the meiki Maria, meiki Sarah, and 4 tenga 3Ds  (module, polygon, pile, zen) though I had all 5 before I chucked the spiral out.

The fliphole black is definitely tighter than the white and more stimulating. Compared to the Meikis the Meikis are tighter given they are zero diameter canals yet in a way they might not feel as tight since the Meikis will just expand with your junk and don't really have a max limit (unless placed in something like say the meiki push doll which make them clearly tighter) so they can appear to not be as tight while the flipholes have the case to limit max expansion and of course are a softer material than the black which can also make a toy not feel as tight even if it is. I like the black yet I prefer the Meikis to it given they are far more realistic and just feel better to me.

I'd suggest looking at the Tenga 3D sleeves as to me they are superior to the flipholes and are a great bang for the buck. I think the Pile would probably be a good choice for you and you can easily squeeze them as much as you want to make them as tight as you want and the Pile design is very stimulating. The Module probably has the most noticeable texture yet it can be too stimulating at times for me while the Pile is close in texture yet doesn't over stimulate me.

Thanks for your reply John. So overall would you recommend a Meiji over the black for a tiger, more stimulating experience? I plan to keep my white flip hole, so I'm not sure if two flips would be a good idea. Thanks again for your time

Any other suggestions are appreciated 

[johnhiggin]

I'd recommend a meiki for an overall better feeling toy given its added realism. The black will be more stimulating simply because of how it is designed with the funky interior. As for tightness, I mentioned in my first post about how a Meiki sleeves compares.

The big benefit of a fliphole over a meiki sleeve is how easy they are to clean and dry. Meikis are a bit of a pain when it comes to drying and cleaning requires more time. Oh and flipholes are more durable since the material they use isn't as soft.

I will also say that the black is quite different than the white so if you go with the black you won't have to worry about getting a toy that is barely different.

[lolop]

Oh and flipholes are more durable since the material they use isn't as soft.

Hello again John. Thanks for your response. I'm sorry to bother you again, but since you've been so helpful, could you expand a little on this? Is hte lifespan of a Meiki considerably shorter than that of  fliphole? For example the fliphole supposedly only owuld last for "50 uses" yet it has lasted me all year with pretty much 0 damage. I've heard about some people "piercing a hole" in their meiki, or it tearing. Is this usual?

Thanks again.

[johnhiggin]

Hi,

What I meant was that the Meiki material can tear/rip a lot easier and you wouldn't want to be rough with the sleeves when doing things like say cleaning. The material of the flip holes being firmer doesn't have these risks and as you know, the 50 use thing is nowhere near accurate. Tenga seems to say this for their 3D sleeves too which isn't close to accurate as I have used my Pile 3d sleeve well over 50 times and there isn't a single problem with it.

When it comes to Meikis, I am of the opinion they will all tear at the opening because they make the openings too small. Some will be minor and just tear based on your size while others may tear and keep expanding. I think that is an issue mainly for dual layers. Speaking of dual layers, I only have the one for experience but given it and what others here say, it seems every dual layer will eventually start to fall apart with the inner layer flaking away and coming unattached. Single layers are I'm sure far more durable. I also think over time the texture of the meiki sleeve will wear down though I can't confirm this yet.

I think a properly cared for meiki sleeve can last a while yet there is no doubt it'll fall apart long before a flip hole ever would.