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[plokijuhyg]

i heard first seventeen product gets torn after few uses.
how bout seventeen evo? it torn also?
better than tenga flip hole?

i don't know i should get tenga flip hole black edition or seventeen evo.

last question, is tenga flip hole durable?

[Metamorphisis]

VERY Durable, from my sources. seventeen #1 isn't bad either. they each give different feels to them.

[plokijuhyg]

so, seventeen evo is not durable also?

[Metamorphisis]

they all are VERY Durable. trust me, I've pounded this seventeen #1 down hard without meaning to, and it STILL can be used.

[plokijuhyg]

ahhh, ty. but still can't decide tenga flip or seventeen evo

[Metamorphisis]

flip, for sure, it wont wear out as nearly as quickly, since the fliphole is able to be completely dunked in water and easily wiped down with a soft cloth after and possibly(I could be wrong) putting baby powder or similar in it to keep it preserved until the next later on use. look at more posts and you'll get better ideas. btw id wait till the new fliphole black comes out instead f buying the white, because if you're 6 inches girth and 6 long (give or take half an inch) then you should wait for fliphole black. but its up to you since I'm just being as helpful as i can at this odd hour at night.

[ToyDemon]

Added Note: No need for powdering for TENGA FLIP HOLE

[freshdiggs]

Go with both? They really are two different beasts, each with their own strong point. It's like comparing apples to bananas even if they are all fruits.

[plokijuhyg]

i dont wanna make collections :p
thx for informations

[DaaaBears]

I'd go for the flip hole.

You can look at the reviews in the product page itself. Lot of praises for the Flip Hole. However, that's not to say the 17 evo is bad or anything. It's just a newer product so you would have to wait longer for someone to review it. Seems like all praises too for the 17 evo so far on this forum.