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[Flammz]

Meiki:
+ Realistic stimulation, lots of variation in their offerings
- Expensive
° Rather high-maintenance: since they are very soft, they consist of rather oily material and have a bit of an odor. They don’t dry particularly quickly and if not treated with corn starch or talc (starch is preferred), they get tacky in no time.
Great for: people who want to feel just how realistic it can get. Single layers are superb for people who want longer sessions while dual layers offer a more intense stimulation. Also fantastic when hands-free for example with the Meiki Plush Doll.

Toysheart:
+ Good feel, good durability
° Their cheaper offerings use firm, more durable materials which dry rather quickly and don’t easily get tacky; the more expensive ones use softer materials closer to the Meiki, which also makes them closer to the Meiki feel and higher maintenance as a result.

Magic Eye:
+ Good feel at great prices
° Magic Eye seems to offer toys similar to other popular designs at great prices. For example the Sujiman Kupa Roa resembles the Meiki 007 Sarah both in exterior and interior, the Girl in the Box resembles the Meiki ZXY. The Magic Eye toys are more affordable and more compact, but might not be the best choice for the better endowed (both Small/Medium might be a problem). Since similar materials to the Meiki are used, they should be well maintained.

Kashin:
+ According to them, the highest quality materials are used
- Expensive
° The Kashin are still highly in development. Their current offerings are high on durability, but don’t yet have that top-of-the-line feel (although still good). While firmer than the Meiki, they still need regular treatment with starch/talc or get tacky.

Tomax:
+ Great bang-for-buck, very nice feel and good durability
- Not available everywhere (1 dealer per continent I have heard)
° These are my personal favorite. They use a kind of rubber material and each come in Soft/Medium/Hard firmness variations. Their realistic offerings in Soft are great for longer sessions (or in Medium for more stimulation), while the more simple (but effective!) designs in Medium are superb for quickies. The Hard material is meant for elder people, or those who want to train against premature ejaculation; but if you aren’t satisfied with Medium you can always try Hard. The material is high on durability while the soft variation is a little more oily and thus a little higher on maintenance than the harder ones.

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Overall there’s some cheap offerings out there which are excellent for the money and last a long while, and the firmness will even train you to last longer! If you want the more realistic offerings, you’ll have to pay, but twice the price won’t necessarily make your orgasm twice as good.

Individual reviews:

Meiki Eiro Chika: similar to Maria Ozawa but better durability. Great for longer sessions, especially hands-free. Not the best for stroking, not the best to train to last in bed. The newest Meiki Hibiki Ootsuki seems to be Meiki’s attempt to make a more stimulating single-layer sleeve which could be interesting.

Meiki Sarah: superb feel, one of the more intense Meiki’s but the design is supposedly on the more fragile side. Realistic and highly stimulating: very “fleshy” feeling while the XYZ has more of a “hugging” feeling (some compared it to a woman who does kegel exercises all day long).

Honorable mention of the premium Clone Meiki such as Miyu Hoshino which are insanely soft, even more so than the Maria & sisters; if you like the idea of "silk on your dick" these are what you want. Especially fantastic when hands-free. The Clone series aren't particularly long, though, but going from what people say they should still be quite durable.

Toysheart Fairy Onahole: if you’re a fan of tightness, you will definitely like this one. Its interior isn’t particularly detailed but it certainly grips your member considerably. Again, the well endowed should better steer away from “Small/Medium” sized toys (which is why I couldn’t enjoy this one).

Magic Eye Sujiman Kupa Roa: great toy (if it fits: size Small). The Kupa Roa probably isn’t a toy made to last, though. It is high on stimulation with a little suction room at the end. What I really liked about this one, is that the end of the interior seemed to be made of softer material which made it easier to keep stroking through an orgasm. More toys should adopt this feature.

Tomax 2D-Wavy Ripple: if you are in the market for something that can get you off quickly with great orgasms, this one is amazing. For example you can keep building up an orgasm and try to fend it off to eventually erupt in ecstasy, quite the experience. I’m not going to waste more words here, let’s just say I could have saved a couple of hundred of dollars if I just bought a couple of these.
An alternative to this toy could be the Tong-Ggo from Korean Meiki, made from different materials but could offer a comparable feel.

Tomax Venus Clone: order it in your firmness of preference for a Meiki-like feel at great price and with great durability.

[Nyarlat]

Good guide and write up Flammz!

[Die]

Thanks Flammz. I honestly don't think I've ever learned so much for variety in one review!

I'm not going to lie, when I first saw the Kashin products, the first thing I thought of were Fleshlights due to the repeating texture they mostly have. Sadly, just a bit too pricey for me to take a risk on them. Is there a clear-cut winner in this line? I didn't want to assume the higher the chapter number, the better, but 6 seems to have the best ratings here on TD.

The Tomax products are much more affordable; it's a shame TD doesn't seem to carry them. I think for sure they'd be decent sellers; I always heard good things about their Succubus line!

[Flammz]

I'm not going to lie, when I first saw the Kashin products, the first thing I thought of were Fleshlights due to the repeating texture they mostly have. Sadly, just a bit too pricey for me to take a risk on them. Is there a clear-cut winner in this line? I didn't want to assume the higher the chapter number, the better, but 6 seems to have the best ratings here on TD.

The Tomax products are much more affordable; it's a shame TD doesn't seem to carry them. I think for sure they'd be decent sellers; I always heard good things about their Succubus line!

The Kashin 5 and more so the 6 are definitely their best so far, but there's still lots of room for improvement, especially at their price tag. The big plus, of course, if that they should last quite a while when taken good care of. The thing is, the Meiki are the most expensive, even in Japan at 3-4 times the price of the average sleeve (~8000yen). The Kashin in Japan is noticeably cheaper (~4000yen), I'm guessing the price difference in the international market is due to official endorsement etc. so that's another thing to keep in mind.

Since Tomax products are affordable and also very durable with excellent interior designs, they are definitely worth a try. TD actually has a history with Tomax but negotiations failed, more info at https://www.toydemon.com/td2forum/index.php?topic=1656. Quite sad.

[SonicBoom]

Great thread Flammz!  Very informative and useful comparisons.  I tried the Tomax Real and Ripple, the medium and hard was too hard for me, I should have gone with the soft I guess.  But I was already used to meiki soft by then, I should have known better.  I agree with your comments on the other brands, except for Kashin.  I don't own any of their stuff yet.

SB

[masterbate]

Hi Flammz,

Which sleeves in your opinion are the easiest to stroke through? Can you list them in order to easiest to hardest?

I experience the same problem.

Thanks

[Flammz]

Hi Flammz,

Which sleeves in your opinion are the easiest to stroke through? Can you list them in order to easiest to hardest?

I experience the same problem.

Thanks

Hiya, I feel that your question can't just be simply answered, though, since a big part of it is personal preference. First of all you should get a toy fit to your size, for example if the toy is too big the end might be flopping and weighing you down. Secondly the softer toys might be best hands-free but you might just enjoy them just as much when stroking, people vary . Finally I think a toy higher on the stimulation side might be a safer choice, since when it's too low on stimulation you'll end up disappointed.

[Flammz]

So I bought the Lilith uterus and so far it wasn't very noteworthy. Given its design it's more of a hassle to clean (more places where stuff keep sticking) and its stimulation isn't bad but merely above average. I think I'm really a sucker for the cheaper, straightforward and easy to clean toys rather than those with their intricate, exotic designs.

[Meiki Lover]

Is the Tomax Venus Real a downgrade coming from Meiki? Ive been curious about it for a while now but still hesitating to buy it due to the relatively high price.

[Flammz]

Is the Tomax Venus Real a downgrade coming from Meiki? Ive been curious about it for a while now but still hesitating to buy it due to the relatively high price.

A downgrade? Yes. And no. Considering it's the #1 Tomax bestseller (followed by 2D Wave, Dots, Venus Clone and Spiral wave) a whole lot of people are more than happy with it. The Meiki offers more life-like material and more realistic stimulation, at a price and with its own set of demerits. The Tomax offers amazing durability (these easily last a year) at a superb price, while still being quite good feeling.

Quoting someone else's review, between the Tomax and the Meiki, neither will make you say "damn that was an awful orgasm", while the tomax will be less heavy on the wallet.

[Meiki Lover]

Thanks Flammz! Guess i`ll pass on the Venus Real and get another Meiki instead!

[Flammz]

Thanks Flammz! Guess i`ll pass on the Venus Real and get another Meiki instead!

Meiki's: single layered for slow sessions I recommend Hibiki Ootsuki (their newest) or Clone Miyu Hoshino (rave reviews). Realistic and medium stimulation the XZY, realistic and most stimulating the Sarah. Your experiences might vary, of course.

[HardGay]

i suppose there's no real solution to get a toy that's both realistic and durable haha...probably just the nature of the silicone material...either very realistic yet it requires a softer silicone which is prone to tears.....or a durable one which has a slightly firmer silicone yet decreases the realism feel...doh!!! 

[Flammz]

i suppose there's no real solution to get a toy that's both realistic and durable haha...probably just the nature of the silicone material...either very realistic yet it requires a softer silicone which is prone to tears.....or a durable one which has a slightly firmer silicone yet decreases the realism feel...doh!!! 

Thankfully they keep researching with new material combinations for example the Girl in the Box, but such research also raises the product cost again

[Meiki Lover]

i suppose there's no real solution to get a toy that's both realistic and durable haha...probably just the nature of the silicone material...either very realistic yet it requires a softer silicone which is prone to tears.....or a durable one which has a slightly firmer silicone yet decreases the realism feel...doh!!! 

Life is a compromise. That applies to everything, even sextoys, lol