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[SuperM4n]

 I have used fleshlights in the past when I was a teenager I had the wonder wave. I used to have to hide it and eventually I ended up throwing it out when moving because it would be too hard to hide. I just recently bought an STU, since I don't have to hide anything anymore. (I'm in my 20's now) I got to the point where I could last about an hour or more in the STU.

I was considering buying some more fleshlight sleeves, but by coincidence I was browsing Yahoo answers and saw someone mention the Meiki ones and said they were much better. Due to the sales for BF/Cyber monday on here I was able to get both the Meiki Maria and ZXY.

Impressions of the box/size of the sleeves & material

I thought the box was pretty neat, and the size of the sleeves seemed pretty small to me compared to the fleshlights I'm used to.

The material felt similar to a fleshlight, that's all I can really compare it to, but it's softer and feels "better" overall.



ZXY Experience

The first one I tried was the ZXY. I applied much smaller amounts of lube to it compared to a fleshlight, because of reviews I read on here. I just dabbed it on and worked it into the sleeve with my fingers. Then I lubed my cock. It slid right in without a problem.

Unfortunately I thought it wasn't going to be too intense so I was acting like it was a fleshlight. This made me have premature ejaculation. I lasted all of 3 minutes in the ZXY. So I guess the STU doesn't do much in reality for stamina training, lol.

I tried again a bit later and the experience was much more enjoyable knowing that it was so stimulating I could be prepared to back off when I needed to, and it lead to a very intense orgasm. Not more intense than what I've gotten from fleshlights, but it was very close to the most intense I've had a from a fleshlight. I'm betting things will improve soon, because I know it takes some adjusting.

As far as what I could feel, I could feel pretty much everything inside, and there was a lot going on. I liked gripping the "butt" part of the sleeve sometimes.

Maria

I'm not too big, around 6 - 6.5" or so erect, but I did end up punching the end of the sleeve, and if I punched too hard I could just barely see my tip starting to push through on the side area so I had to back off and not go anywhere near balls deep with it, otherwise I'd fear punching a hole in it.

This one seemed "rougher" or more jaggy feeling. My penis might be too sensitized from the STU fleshlight, I'm not sure. (I used the STU every day for maybe a month, so maybe.)

The nibs inside Maria seemed to just jag at me, though it was still pleasant, it seems I get along better with the ZXY right now, because it was super intense right away. This one, I could go on and on for over an hour and just edge for ever if I wanted. The sensations were still better than FL's. When I finally climaxed it was a very powerful orgasm.

conclusion

Overall, I'm glad I went with Meiki's over getting more fleshlights. It's too bad Meiki products have such poor advertising and brand recognition in the west

[SonicBoom]

Thanks for doing this review and welcome to the forum!   

Those two meiki's are by far the most popular, so you made good choices. 

SB

[demondabbler]

Great reviews.

I also had the same initial impression of Maria Ozawa, that there was something unpleasant. The interesting thing is that over time, my guy has gotten over that initial first impression and now I really enjoy Ozawa!

XYZ is out of this world.

Welcome to the forum.

[johnhiggin]

Thanks for the feedback and I agree about how it is a shame that these aren't marketed better here in the west and most in this area think fleshlight is king. If Meiki sleeves were more widely available and people got to see how great they are then surely they'd be outselling fleshlights by a huge margin.

When I first got fleshlights many years ago I thought they were amazing and couldn't be topped and I ended up buying far too many sleeves. I then got a flip hole and that thing to me was easily superior, not so much for the feeling (about equal) but for the overall package of better lube retention and clean up. I then got a couple other flipholes and then got 4 of the tenga 3d sleeves and those to me destroyed fleshlights and were superior to the flip holes. Last month I got the Meiki Maria and it is easily the best of the bunch and I have to laugh at those who buy fleshlights and think they have the pinnacle of jackoff sleeves when the reality to me is that fleshlights are the most overrated/hyped toys out there. I remember putting my finger in the Maria and just laughing at those who think the fleshlights are as close to real as there is. I got the Sarah on the way so I am curious to see how a dual layer is.

I have one fleshlight left which I will keep around for spare material if I need to make fixes to my Meikis and I plan to keep one of my 3 flipholes at least for a while longer. I am going to keep my Tenga 3D sleeves as well. I will say that I really do enjoy the 3d sleeves and they are great if one is looking for a more intense/less realistic experience. They are also incredibly low maintenance.

[demondabbler]

Thanks for the feedback and I agree about how it is a shame that these aren't marketed better here in the west and most in this area think fleshlight is king. If Meiki sleeves were more widely available and people got to see how great they are then surely they'd be outselling fleshlights by a huge margin.

When I first got fleshlights many years ago I thought they were amazing and couldn't be topped and I ended up buying far too many sleeves. I then got a flip hole and that thing to me was easily superior, not so much for the feeling (about equal) but for the overall package of better lube retention and clean up. I then got a couple other flipholes and then got 4 of the tenga 3d sleeves and those to me destroyed fleshlights and were superior to the flip holes. Last month I got the Meiki Maria and it is easily the best of the bunch and I have to laugh at those who buy fleshlights and think they have the pinnacle of jackoff sleeves when the reality to me is that fleshlights are the most overrated/hyped toys out there. I remember putting my finger in the Maria and just laughing at those who think the fleshlights are as close to real as there is. I got the Sarah on the way so I am curious to see how a dual layer is.

I have one fleshlight left which I will keep around for spare material if I need to make fixes to my Meikis and I plan to keep one of my 3 flipholes at least for a while longer. I am going to keep my Tenga 3D sleeves as well. I will say that I really do enjoy the 3d sleeves and they are great if one is looking for a more intense/less realistic experience. They are also incredibly low maintenance.

Hey John,

I had the exact same impression as you, after busting more than $200 on fleshlights over the years. After using a Meiki, fleshlights just don't cut it anymore and feel comparatively very rough. However, I will admit that sometimes the Fleshlight Vortex can still take me for a great ride!

[SuperM4n]

One thing I forgot to mention was that the more intense orgasms I had with the fleshlight were "assisted" by an Aneros Helix. If I have enough time available I usually use that for about 30 min before going to the sleeves.

If you can get past shoving something up your bum the aneros stuff is excellent, but it does take some time before you get a lot of pleasure out of it.

My next test will be to use the ZXY after I've "worked myself up" with the Aneros. I don't touch my penis at all during aneros sessions and usually wait until there's some precum & a couple orgasm type sensations. Then I finish with a sleeve, and this is probably the only reason I've had more intense orgasms with fleshlights.

I'd like to try a flip hole or tenga 3d sleeve but I'm pretty sold on the Meiki line at this point. I probably will adjust to maria eventually, just might take a few more tries.

[demondabbler]

One thing I forgot to mention was that the more intense orgasms I had with the fleshlight were "assisted" by an Aneros Helix. If I have enough time available I usually use that for about 30 min before going to the sleeves.

If you can get past shoving something up your bum the aneros stuff is excellent, but it does take some time before you get a lot of pleasure out of it.

My next test will be to use the ZXY after I've "worked myself up" with the Aneros. I don't touch my penis at all during aneros sessions and usually wait until there's some precum & a couple orgasm type sensations. Then I finish with a sleeve, and this is probably the only reason I've had more intense orgasms with fleshlights.

I'd like to try a flip hole or tenga 3d sleeve but I'm pretty sold on the Meiki line at this point. I probably will adjust to maria eventually, just might take a few more tries.

It takes guts to talk about some of the alternative toys offered here at Toydemon. Kudos

[SuperM4n]

It takes guts to talk about some of the alternative toys offered here at Toydemon. Kudos

I'm not sure why prostate massage is taboo, it's really not that big of a deal in my eyes. Though I realize some people are uncomfortable with it. I'm not gay, but it does seem like the gay community is much more accepting of it.

The aneros can produce orgasms all on its own if you relax with it enough, I've had a handful of dry orgasms with it. I haven't had the "Super O" they talk about on their forums yet. I also do KSMO.

But back on topic, I tried the Maria with the Aneros and my view completely shifted - Maria was far superior and gave me actual euphoria before leading up to a super extreme orgasm, more than I've ever, ever had with a fleshlight. It was a shaking orgasm.

[demondabbler]

It takes guts to talk about some of the alternative toys offered here at Toydemon. Kudos

I'm not sure why prostate massage is taboo, it's really not that big of a deal in my eyes. Though I realize some people are uncomfortable with it. I'm not gay, but it does seem like the gay community is much more accepting of it.

The aneros can produce orgasms all on its own if you relax with it enough, I've had a handful of dry orgasms with it. I haven't had the "Super O" they talk about on their forums yet. I also do KSMO.

But back on topic, I tried the Maria with the Aneros and my view completely shifted - Maria was far superior and gave me actual euphoria before leading up to a super extreme orgasm, more than I've ever, ever had with a fleshlight. It was a shaking orgasm.

its funny, we live in such a homophobic society. I was outraged with the entire Chick-Fil-A thing, and I have lots of gay friends. Yet I still have reservations about using a prostate massage product. I don't know how much that is tied to some innate homophobia, or if it's just because, well, that's unexplored territory!

[SuperM4n]

I had reservations with all sex toys in the beginning. Mostly it's just social conditioning for men I think. Women are allowed to have their toys and whatnot, so why can't I?

With the aneros, it was hard to get "up there" the first time, my anus rejected it. I was sore for awhile because of it. After I tried again a few times, it was 100% accepted and I no longer get any soreness whatsoever, feels like nothing was even in there.

The only problem I have with it now is getting pleasurable sensations - sometimes I get them right away other times I get nothing, so I need more practice with it. A lot of it has to do with breathing, relaxing, and being comfortable. So if you have reservations about it, it probably won't be pleasurable for you. If you check out the wiki on aneros it can take a long time before you "master" it.

I've been almost exclusively just using it for "Super-T's" which is why I use the Meiki sleeves or fleshlight. Though I'm considering getting rid of my STU since meiki's are so superior. I do give the Aneros 30 mins to itself to see if it goes anywhere interesting by itself before I introduce a sleeve however. I do know I can't even use my hand to masturbate anymore it just seems so archaic and feels like crap compared to the sleeves.

[muddbutt]

I've experienced the prostate orgasms and they're great, but the only reason I haven't gotten into toys like the Aneros is cause I'm really too lazy to poke around my anus for playtime. My ex-girlfriend introduced me to prostate pleasure years ago, she brought it up one day and the next time I know I'm getting my asshole fingered and a blowjob at the same time while my body is convulsing from pleasure!

[DaaaBears]

lol muddbutt, that mental image you just gave me.............lol

[SuperM4n]

I've experienced the prostate orgasms and they're great, but the only reason I haven't gotten into toys like the Aneros is cause I'm really too lazy to poke around my anus for playtime. My ex-girlfriend introduced me to prostate pleasure years ago, she brought it up one day and the next time I know I'm getting my asshole fingered and a blowjob at the same time while my body is convulsing from pleasure!

Well the aneros is pretty easy to use once you get used to it. Pretty much just lube up the butt and the aneros and you're good to go.  Probably takes a minute or less total. I haven't used a syringe for lube insertion yet, but I do have one on order. Cleaning on the aneros is also really easy. I always find cleaning the aneros is the easy part, the sleeves are more difficult.

I also had a very strong hands free orgasm from the aneros yesterday - not sure if it was a "super o" but was probably stronger than an ejaculation orgasm, the only problem is they're much harder to get compared to regular ejaculatory orgasms. I had to use KSMO + Aneros movement to get it. My whole body shook uncontrollably for a minute or two.