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Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« on: November 07, 2012, 07:51:51 PM »
I'll try to keep this short and sweet: any bird owners know that birds lose a lot of their heat through their feet. So, if you can keep their feet toasty during the winter, you have a happy parrot/parakeet.

Any owner of a male masturbator knows that our toys are much more enjoyable when they are warm.

The intersection between cock and cockatiel is the heated perch, a multi-purpose element that will keep both rambunctious beasts toasty in the winter. The benefit of using a heated perch is that there is no need to clean up water, there is zero fire hazard and the toy can heat your unit up to 98 degrees F. DFriday reports that caution must be taken not to leave the perch in the toy for too long (in his case he left it for 2 hours), as heat buildup can cause damage. Thus I recommend doing your own trials.

First of all, the perch can be left plugged in. It consumes very little electricity. That way it is available when you want to use it, instead of having to wait for it to warm up. Try 10 minute heating intervals. 10, 20, 30 minutes. Choose which of those intervals is most comfortable for you and just set a timer next time.



I recommend the KH perch. Small size is preferable as I find it heats more evenly than medium. To the best of my knowledge, KH Pet Supplies is not in direct competition with Toydemon. I also happen to know that KH is a good company that provides excellent support for its products, and I have owned heated perches that have lasted for years.

Make sure you remove your parrot before heating your Meiki.

This may seem like a joke post but I am 100% serious. These heaters are around 30-40 bucks on Amazon, use very little electricity and are safe.

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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 08:47:26 PM »

 That's a pretty cool find. I'm trying to imagine myself in a pet store.

 Me: Excuse me ma'am do you have a heated parrot perch
 Store Clerk: Sure, what kind of parrot do you have?
 Me: I have an uhh? I have an Ozawa parrot Ma'am.
 Store Clerk: Wow, that sounds like an interesting breed I have never heard of that.
 Me: Yes, it's a rare breed only found in Japan.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 09:56:58 PM »
Quote from: Captainawesome on November 07, 2012, 08:47:26 PM

 That's a pretty cool find. I'm trying to imagine myself in a pet store.

 Me: Excuse me ma'am do you have a heated parrot perch
 Store Clerk: Sure, what kind of parrot do you have?
 Me: I have an uhh? I have an Ozawa parrot Ma'am.
 Store Clerk: Wow, that sounds like an interesting breed I have never heard of that.
 Me: Yes, it's a rare breed only found in Japan.

I'm pretty sure that won't work for me, I live in Hawaii ;D  I can just imagine the look on the sales clerk's face when I have to explain that I keep my parrot in the refrigerator!

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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 06:49:45 AM »
Quote from: SonicBoom on November 07, 2012, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: Captainawesome on November 07, 2012, 08:47:26 PM

 That's a pretty cool find. I'm trying to imagine myself in a pet store.

 Me: Excuse me ma'am do you have a heated parrot perch
 Store Clerk: Sure, what kind of parrot do you have?
 Me: I have an uhh? I have an Ozawa parrot Ma'am.
 Store Clerk: Wow, that sounds like an interesting breed I have never heard of that.
 Me: Yes, it's a rare breed only found in Japan.

I'm pretty sure that won't work for me, I live in Hawaii ;D  I can just imagine the look on the sales clerk's face when I have to explain that I keep my parrot in the refrigerator!

SB

Hahaha :), I love these responses! But for sure, that's what Amazon is for muaahaha!
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 09:37:24 AM »
And being that over half of the population of Hawaii are Japanese...they'd probably figure out who the Ozawa Parrot is...lol :D
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 06:22:16 AM »
I like this idea in theory but have a few questions.

How long does the perch take to heat up and what kind of time are we talking about to heat up the toy to a realistic level?

Would you have to lube up the perch a bit to get the toy to slide on? I'm thinking yes although some spit would probably be enough.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 08:49:11 AM »
Quote from: johnhiggin on November 09, 2012, 06:22:16 AM
I like this idea in theory but have a few questions.

How long does the perch take to heat up and what kind of time are we talking about to heat up the toy to a realistic level?

Would you have to lube up the perch a bit to get the toy to slide on? I'm thinking yes although some spit would probably be enough.

Hey John,

Good questions. Heating up the toy should take about 10 minutes. I think of it a bit of "set it and forget it", as opposed to having to run back and forth with hot water. You do need to put a little bit of lube on the unit to slide it in, but that presents no challenges as the perch itself is plastic.

I think that size SMALL heats up more for its size than medium.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 12:17:29 PM »
Quote from: johnhiggin on November 09, 2012, 06:22:16 AM
I like this idea in theory but have a few questions.

How long does the perch take to heat up and what kind of time are we talking about to heat up the toy to a realistic level?

Would you have to lube up the perch a bit to get the toy to slide on? I'm thinking yes although some spit would probably be enough.

Sorry, I didn't answer your first question. The perch gets heated up within 3 minutes. The toy will get heated up in about 10 minutes.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2012, 04:42:05 PM »
I had to LOL at the pet store search for the rare Ozawa Parrot! Thanks for that!

Demondabbler: Thanks for finding this! Very creative. I had been thinking of buying a heating pad, but this product warms the inside. Perfect. I do have some concerns about whether the end of the device also heats up - it is over 10" long! Still, I believe this is the best solution yet to the body warmth simulation problem.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 12:28:41 AM »
Quote from: spray on November 10, 2012, 04:42:05 PM
I had to LOL at the pet store search for the rare Ozawa Parrot! Thanks for that!

Demondabbler: Thanks for finding this! Very creative. I had been thinking of buying a heating pad, but this product warms the inside. Perfect. I do have some concerns about whether the end of the device also heats up - it is over 10" long! Still, I believe this is the best solution yet to the body warmth simulation problem.

Hey Spray,

That is a very astute observation. Most of the stick heats up. I would say 9-9.5". Right around the tip it doesn't produce as much heat. But overall the unit will warm the inside of your toy quite well!
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2012, 05:35:11 PM »
Thanks for the info. I think I may get one of these even though I'm not fussy about warming up my sleeves. For the price and ease of use though this seems like it's worth it.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 01:45:40 AM »
Quote from: johnhiggin on November 12, 2012, 05:35:11 PM
Thanks for the info. I think I may get one of these even though I'm not fussy about warming up my sleeves. For the price and ease of use though this seems like it's worth it.

Good luck John. I recommend the small size, seems to heat up better than the medium.
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2012, 08:59:04 AM »
Got one (the small, from Amazon.com, gotta love Prime shipping...).  It works, but it's not perfect.  Let me dwell on the negatives and provide some suggestions.

If you walk away and leave it, it gets  too hot. 

My Meiki ZXY had seen better days, and had multiple tears around the orifice, but she was still usable, and still lots of fun.  I stuck her on the new Thermo-Perch, as it slowly heated up.  A couple of minutes in, I had to leave to deal with something urgent -- I didn't unplug the Thermo-Perch because I thought I'd be back momentarily, but stuff got complicated and I forgot about my Meiki on the Thermo-Perch until I was able to return about 2 hours later.

Removing the Thermo-Perch, I stick my finger into the Meiki and my initial impression is that it's too hot, that I certainly don't want to be sticking my sensitive organ in there. Additionally it appeared to have gotten hot enough to mold the inside of the Meiki to the shape of the Thermo-Perch.  As the Meiki cooled off, I did use it, and my impression was confirmed, as the interior texture of the Meiki appeared to have been flattened, and was much smoother than it had been previously. Let's just say it was less stimulating than it had been in the past.  Suddenly my ZXY is no longer the ZXY I had grown to love.  So I'm going to need to buy a new one.

Moral of the story:
Don't leave your Meiki on the Thermo-perch unattended for any significant period of time.

Since this was my first use of the TP, I don't know what the optimal warming time is, but if we know what an appropriate warming time is, then I would recommend setting an alarm on your phone, so that you'll know when to remove the TP from your Meiki before it gets too hot and harm is done.

The right way to do this would be to rig a thermocouple sensor with a thermostat switch, that would turn the Thermo-Perch off and on appropriately, keeping the Meiki within a certain temperature range, say, between 97 and 100 degrees F.  I'm sure one of you geeks out there can show the rest of us how to do this.





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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2012, 11:56:06 AM »
Quote from: d_friday on November 17, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
Got one (the small, from Amazon.com, gotta love Prime shipping...).  It works, but it's not perfect.  Let me dwell on the negatives and provide some suggestions.

If you walk away and leave it, it gets  too hot. 

My Meiki ZXY had seen better days, and had multiple tears around the orifice, but she was still usable, and still lots of fun.  I stuck her on the new Thermo-Perch, as it slowly heated up.  A couple of minutes in, I had to leave to deal with something urgent -- I didn't unplug the Thermo-Perch because I thought I'd be back momentarily, but stuff got complicated and I forgot about my Meiki on the Thermo-Perch until I was able to return about 2 hours later.

Removing the Thermo-Perch, I stick my finger into the Meiki and my initial impression is that it's too hot, that I certainly don't want to be sticking my sensitive organ in there. Additionally it appeared to have gotten hot enough to mold the inside of the Meiki to the shape of the Thermo-Perch.  As the Meiki cooled off, I did use it, and my impression was confirmed, as the interior texture of the Meiki appeared to have been flattened, and was much smoother than it had been previously. Let's just say it was less stimulating than it had been in the past.  Suddenly my ZXY is no longer the ZXY I had grown to love.  So I'm going to need to buy a new one.

Moral of the story:
Don't leave your Meiki on the Thermo-perch unattended for any significant period of time.

Since this was my first use of the TP, I don't know what the optimal warming time is, but if we know what an appropriate warming time is, then I would recommend setting an alarm on your phone, so that you'll know when to remove the TP from your Meiki before it gets too hot and harm is done.

The right way to do this would be to rig a thermocouple sensor with a thermostat switch, that would turn the Thermo-Perch off and on appropriately, keeping the Meiki within a certain temperature range, say, between 97 and 100 degrees F.  I'm sure one of you geeks out there can show the rest of us how to do this.

Friday, I sincerely apologize that you had this negative experience and that you ruined your XYZ. You are absoultely right that you can't leave the perch inside the unit for an extended period of time. Interestingly, part of the reason why I lacked the foresight to warn you guys against this is because my parakeets and parrots literally stand on this perch all day long. The thing is - the heating element differs in different parts of the perch, so the bird can move away from a hot spot if they want to.

Anyway, hopefully your lesson will help prevent any future disasters. I added a warning to the original post. I do still think it is a valid way to heat your toy, but we need to identify how long it takes to heat the toy without causing damage!

For myself, I have heated Maria Ozawa for 5-10 minutes with good results once the element was already warm.

RIP XYZ
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Re: Heated perch for heating toys: sorry Polly, no cracker for you
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2012, 12:14:21 PM »
Quote from: d_friday on November 17, 2012, 08:59:04 AM
Got one (the small, from Amazon.com, gotta love Prime shipping...).  It works, but it's not perfect.  Let me dwell on the negatives and provide some suggestions.

If you walk away and leave it, it gets  too hot. 

My Meiki ZXY had seen better days, and had multiple tears around the orifice, but she was still usable, and still lots of fun.  I stuck her on the new Thermo-Perch, as it slowly heated up.  A couple of minutes in, I had to leave to deal with something urgent -- I didn't unplug the Thermo-Perch because I thought I'd be back momentarily, but stuff got complicated and I forgot about my Meiki on the Thermo-Perch until I was able to return about 2 hours later.

Removing the Thermo-Perch, I stick my finger into the Meiki and my initial impression is that it's too hot, that I certainly don't want to be sticking my sensitive organ in there. Additionally it appeared to have gotten hot enough to mold the inside of the Meiki to the shape of the Thermo-Perch.  As the Meiki cooled off, I did use it, and my impression was confirmed, as the interior texture of the Meiki appeared to have been flattened, and was much smoother than it had been previously. Let's just say it was less stimulating than it had been in the past.  Suddenly my ZXY is no longer the ZXY I had grown to love.  So I'm going to need to buy a new one.

Moral of the story:
Don't leave your Meiki on the Thermo-perch unattended for any significant period of time.

Since this was my first use of the TP, I don't know what the optimal warming time is, but if we know what an appropriate warming time is, then I would recommend setting an alarm on your phone, so that you'll know when to remove the TP from your Meiki before it gets too hot and harm is done.

The right way to do this would be to rig a thermocouple sensor with a thermostat switch, that would turn the Thermo-Perch off and on appropriately, keeping the Meiki within a certain temperature range, say, between 97 and 100 degrees F.  I'm sure one of you geeks out there can show the rest of us how to do this.

I'm really sorry you lost your ZXY.  But thanks a lot for posting your experience so others here won't have to go through the same.  On the bright side, at least your meiki wasn't new, that would have been terrible.  And this gives you the opportunity to try out something else :)

I was planning on trying out this heated perch so this info will really help, thanks again.

SB
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