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[dontforgettostretch]

Hello.  I'm new to both the site and forums and was wondering if anyone could help me with some product suggestions.  I'm currently trying to exceed the free shipping amount, and am a bit staggered by the possibilities.  My only experience so far is with the Fleshlights, so the myriad of options this place has is confusing.  I know what I'm looking for, but it's hard to tell what I'm getting, so to anyone with actual experience with the sleeves in question, their help would be greatly appreciated.  In short, I'm looking for a 2nd and possibly 3rd sleeve to put me over the $100 cap (my living situation being that a bulk order is preferable to placing future orders). 

Currently my only item is the ZXY at $80, which from my research, seems to be the consensus 'best'.  My indecision arises with the choice for a 2nd sleeve, and possibly 3rd if I can keep it under $200.  I'm looking for some variety while keeping it in the tight realistic vagina range;  ex: no monster vags, Tenga 3D/ eggs/ flip, sleeves with non-natural tunnels, asses, mouths.  Here's a list of sleeves that have caught my attention, and my questions/ concerns about them.

~$80 Sleeves

Meiki Sarah- https://www.toydemon.com/Meiki-007-Sarah.html
Awesome visual appeal, however concerned about some redundancy with the ZXY.  If they are different enough to warrant it, this would be my first choice.

Meiki YJY- https://www.toydemon.com/Meiki-Yen-Jyu-Yi.html
Again, it looks to be redundant with the ZXY and Sarah, and doesn't quite have the visual appeal of the Sarah (low on my list of concerns though). 

Meiki Maria Ozawa- https://www.toydemon.com/Meiki-Maria-Ozawa.html
Seems expensive for a single layer sleeve.  I'm not at all concerned about cost if it's worth it though.  Possibly surpassed by the dual layers for the cost?
While I'm at single layers for ~ $80, I'll throw out the Meiki 'Up', 'Down', and Miyu Hoshino (though currently out of stock).  They all seem to be similar to the MO in general appearance and design, but if anyone feels any of these are superior, by all means suggest one.


~$50 Sleeves

Meiki 3 Sisters- https://www.toydemon.com/Virgin_Sister_-Meiki_3_Sisters.html
Specifically the Virgin unless someone would suggest otherwise.  Single layer design seems like it would be robust and the 'virgin' tightness is appealing.  My first choice assuming the above sleeves are very similar to the ZXY.

Innocent Younger Sister- https://www.toydemon.com/Innocent_Younger_Sister.html
Possible alternative to the Meiki Sisters line.  Looks similar to Like a Virgin, which is cheaper.

17 Evo- https://www.toydemon.com/SevenTeen_Evo.html
Dual layer construction (and resulting comments about it separating) and wide channel are off putting but the cervix looks interesting, although the comments seem to discount its functionality.  For ~ $50 the Sisters look like a better option.


< $35 Sleeves  Assuming any of these are even worth buying in addition to the above, I'll just list a couple in case anyone thinks they fit the tight, realistic vagina theme.

Like a Virgin, First Trip to School- Interested in adding to order if under budget and they aren't complete crap compared to the more costly sleeves.  Both have the concealed labia look similar to the Sarah which is appealing (although these seemed to be themed to younger girls. 'First trip to school'?   Whatever Japan, I won't judge seeing as I might buy one...)

First Night's Fluttering Heart, Women's Scent (Onna no Kaori), Perfect Meiki Principle 04 Narushima Ryuu, Teen Style Tsukushi- Possible alternatives to fill out the order if any of them are worth a damn.


Those are all items I would buy with a recommendation, again following the theme of tight, realistic vagina.  Also, I guess as a clarification, the 'tight' I'm looking for isn't vice grip tight or constricting, but more of a collapsed channel, zero diameter thing.  As I said my only experience so far is with fleshlights which are non collapsing tubes, and they feel like it.  I guess now would be a good time to post my measurements-  I'm 5.5" and girth-wise can fit in a toilet paper roll for the most part (never actually measured girth).  Looking to simulate intercourse with a non-blown out ~20 year old if that helps.

I'm trying to keep the purchase below $200 including the $80 ZXY.  So all that's left now is for you all to post your best suggestions.  Feel free to mix and match between the prices and varieties, though if the answer is as easy as going with the Sarah, so be it.

Thank you in advance to anyone who takes their time to help me out.    It's hard to pull the trigger on a $200 purchase that I can't exactly mess with before hand, so I really appreciate all your opinions! 



TL;DR  Help me decide on <$120 worth of the above sleeves that are best suited to simulate tight vaginal intercourse.

[activelibido9]

If you want it over the hundred dollar limit for free shipping (which I recommend), just get the ZXY and a Maria Ozawa Love Potion lube which I is $24.99, but I need to check if it's on sale. Another option is to go over the $150 limit right now to get the Maria Ozawa Love Potion lube for free with your order.

As for a recommendation to a 2nd sleeve, I recommend anything Meiki (the NPG made by the Japanese, not the Korean ones). They all have unique textures made as perfect replica vaginas, so they all feel unique and different, in addition to the highly realistic feel. I don't think you'll find a better sleeve out there better than a Meiki.

One thing I learned the hard way was buying a ZXY first (which blew my mind as to how good it felt), then buying mediocre sleeves that made me feel like I've wasted my money. I tried the Fleshlight (it gets the job done, but that's it, it sucks, period), Tenga (overrated junk), 17 Evo (do not buy this, it'll last you one week at best), Meiki Erotic Sister (the Korean Meiki, it isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to the Japanese Meiki), and some Toysheart products (which I do not recommend at all because they do not last and they're only good as budget sleeves, and again, they pale in comparison to the Meiki).

I actually wanted to purchase some new products during the Valentine sale that is going on right now here at ToyDemon, but I'm really on the fence right now since I'm afraid I'm going to feel like I've wasted my money again and regret buying it and just go back to using the Meiki ZXY and never touch the other products ever again.

Hope my answer helped you in some way.

[billyjoe]

Just wanted to 2nd activelibido9's comments.  Very good advice, although I think Tenga makes good quality products, even if they are not for the more uh...sensitive users (like me).  And if you're built bigger than - ahem - average, forget ToysHeart onaholes.  My 17 Evo didn't last even a week, sad to say, and I'm certainly not built like Johnny Wadd.

You just can't go wrong with any of the NPG Meiki products 

[dontforgettostretch]

Thanks for the quick and helpful replies.  I'm glad I took the time to ask as opposed to just picking at random, especially considering the fairly glowing comments for many of the sleeves mentioned as bad.  I also didn't know about the free lube at $150, which is nice.

I kind of left this out of the original post accidentally, but I'm looking to fill out the remaining budget exclusively with sleeves.  I have lube and would prefer a $40 sleeve to a $40 blueray.   I only have a small window, and a limited budget that I'm trying to maximize, mostly the sale and an open week coming up for delivery.

That being said, the post above were very helpful, thank you.  If anyone has anything else to add, I'll be waiting until the 14th to order.  I presume that's the last day of the sale.  Does anyone happen to know for certain?  I apologize if it's posted somewhere.  I haven't noticed offhand.

[muddbutt]

If the ZXY is your first choice then I would stick with another high quality sleeve from the NPG line of toys. They're proven fan favorites and the ZXY will make budget toys very boring. IMO I'd probably go with the YJY. While not as good as the ZXY or as visually appealing as Sarah, the YJY feels much tighter than the ZXY, a little more exciting than Sarah and always produces a unique orgasm for me.

activelibido9 does make a pretty good case about the ZXY versus other toys. I like many others consider the ZXY the cream of the crop right now, but I'm a person who likes variety and quickly gets bored of the same routine so I keep a big sextoy collection to keep myself satisfied. Now I really think toy collectors fit into two groups when they look to purchase a new toys. Those who are search for the most intense orgasm or those searching for something unique or different from their current collection. If you don't think you're part of the latter then I'm inclined to agree with activelibido9 and I'd try to buy some more lube or another bluray to help get the free shipping. You really can't go wrong with NPG toys but $80+ is expensive for a toy if you only use it a few times.

[activelibido9]

If the ZXY is your first choice then I would stick with another high quality sleeve from the NPG line of toys. They're proven fan favorites and the ZXY will make budget toys very boring. IMO I'd probably go with the YJY. While not as good as the ZXY or as visually appealing as Sarah, the YJY feels much tighter than the ZXY, a little more exciting than Sarah and always produces a unique orgasm for me.

activelibido9 does make a pretty good case about the ZXY versus other toys. I like many others consider the ZXY the cream of the crop right now, but I'm a person who likes variety and quickly gets bored of the same routine so I keep a big sextoy collection to keep myself satisfied. Now I really think toy collectors fit into two groups when they look to purchase a new toys. Those who are search for the most intense orgasm or those searching for something unique or different from their current collection. If you don't think you're part of the latter then I'm inclined to agree with activelibido9 and I'd try to buy some more lube or another bluray to help get the free shipping. You really can't go wrong with NPG toys but $80+ is expensive for a toy if you only use it a few times.

By the way mudbutt, I read your review of Meiki Cherry 2. I really, really want to buy it since I want a hip toy and am on a budget, but I'm really on the fence for the reasons I stated above. If you don't mind, can you tell me how it stacks up against the ZXY in terms of intense stimulation, esp. the G-spot?

[muddbutt]

Well I personally think they're two different animals in their own ballparks. The added weight does a lot for the Cherry 2, but no gspot comes close to the ZXY IMO. I consider the Cherry 2 one of my goto toys cause it always satisfies, but that I think thats a little biased cause my hips do more of the talking when I play with it. I use mostly use my hip toys to satisfy my urge for sex if I'm not getting any, so I can get my body into the session and really burn off some energy. I really enjoy throwing the Cherry 2 in all sorts of different positions, and the having the choice of two holes to choose from is a bonus. I think both the vagina and anus of the C2 is great sometimes the vagina feels so good I don't even use the asshole. I absolutely think the ZXY is a more intense ride, but I can barely last over half an hour before bust which is no good if I wanna edge or have a longer session. I love being able to last longer with the C2 letting the pleasure build up until I'm ready to let go of it. Bottoming out and hitting the end of the vaginal or anal canal with my cock head is perhaps my sensation with this toy, I bottom out in just about all my toys and it feels great, but just something about the C2 sends chills through my spine when I do it. Just typing about is making me tingle!

 I feel there's a stark contrast between the pleasure I get from the Cherry 2 and ZXY. If you're looking for something that'll give you the exact feeling of the ZXY then you might wanna save some cash.

[activelibido9]

Well I personally think they're two different animals in their own ballparks. The added weight does a lot for the Cherry 2, but no gspot comes close to the ZXY IMO. I consider the Cherry 2 one of my goto toys cause it always satisfies, but that I think thats a little biased cause my hips do more of the talking when I play with it. I use mostly use my hip toys to satisfy my urge for sex if I'm not getting any, so I can get my body into the session and really burn off some energy. I really enjoy throwing the Cherry 2 in all sorts of different positions, and the having the choice of two holes to choose from is a bonus. I think both the vagina and anus of the C2 is great sometimes the vagina feels so good I don't even use the asshole. I absolutely think the ZXY is a more intense ride, but I can barely last over half an hour before bust which is no good if I wanna edge or have a longer session. I love being able to last longer with the C2 letting the pleasure build up until I'm ready to let go of it. Bottoming out and hitting the end of the vaginal or anal canal with my cock head is perhaps my sensation with this toy, I bottom out in just about all my toys and it feels great, but just something about the C2 sends chills through my spine when I do it. Just typing about is making me tingle!

 I feel there's a stark contrast between the pleasure I get from the Cherry 2 and ZXY. If you're looking for something that'll give you the exact feeling of the ZXY then you might wanna save some cash.

Thanks for the informative reply. It's not that a toy HAS TO HAVE the intense stimulation of the ZXY, if if just stimulates moderately and feels good, I'm fine with that. The problem I have is that I'm skeptical about a Korean Meiki product, because I bought the Meiki Erotic Sister, and I was looking so forward to using it and feel all the textures and the G-spot in the pictures provided by ToyDemon, however, this thing was waaaaaaay too smooth, like I couldn't feel the texture at all, and I have average length and girth. With Cherry 2, if I can at least feel the textures and the G-spot, I would be a happy man.