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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2010, 09:49:17 AM »
According to an article on xbiz.com - http://www.xbiznewswire.com/view.php?id=122492  ILF is also suing -

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In total, the complaint names 7 manufacturers, 11 distributors and 7 retailers.

"They also say that according to the complaint, the companies aren’t licensed to use the elastomeric gel invention and aren’t paying royalties."

Brian Shubin, Fleshlight's executive vice president told XBIZ. "We have intellectual property rights and its our obligation to defend them." -  ILF does not have intellectual property rights on elastomer, ILF DID NOT INVENT IT, asshole...

"Shubin said two patents and multiple trademarks are being violated through the sales of these products, but he added, Fleshlight is willing to work with all parties to come to an amicable agreement" - He already knows they don't have a case and hopes everyone settles out of court to avoid negative publicity, it's the adult entertainment industry, any publicity is good publicity for them.  What trademarks are being violated by any other than 1 of the companies ILF is suing?

More info on ILFs complaints can be found here, including a full list of the companies they are unjustly suing.

http://www.itcblog.com/20100706/interactive-life-forms-files-new-337-complaint-regarding-certain-devices-having-elastomeric-gel/

ILF is also spending an incredible amount of money on this lawsuit, they hired attorneys from www.bracewellgiuliani.com which is apparently a very good law firm.  They don't appear to be patent attorneys though, more e-commerce and energy/environmental concerns.  ILFs lawyer, Alan Albright, served as a United States Magistrate Judge in the Austin Division of the Western District of Texas, and if you read ILFs complaint, they are requesting the trial venue be, where else? but... the Western District of Texas!  Surely, there is no conflict of interest there? Right?  Just because the prosecuting attorney served as a judge in the same district he wants to prosecute the case?  He probably doesn't have any friends who owe him favors in that district, right?... 

What a shit case, fucking transparent as hell what ILF is trying to do, force all their competition out of business.  Greedy bastards.

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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2010, 10:19:12 AM »
I found ILFs International Trade Commission (ITC) complaint here - (it's a pdf)

http://www.itcblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/interactivelifeformscomplaint.pdf

Pages iv - viii list the "evidence" I googled some of the products listed and they are mostly crap, the kind of stuff you see in adult bookstores.  Some of them, such as the Joy-Lite are obvious knock-offs but the TENGA Flip Hole is not similar at all. 

I'm curious to know if it was ILF that thought of suing TENGA or was it the lawyers?  Without suing TENGA, they don't get to sue as many large companies such as LFP Inc, PHE Inc, Sawhorse etc... so there wouldn't be as much money to collect if they win the case. If ILF is going to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars on a lawsuit they want to make it worthwhile and if they can put some of their competition out of business in the process, even better for them.  I'm going to take a shot in the dark and assume that business ethics is not a major concern over at ILF.

Can anyone honestly look at a FL and then a TENGA Fliphole and say, "Gee, they look almost identical!"  The Fliphole is not disguised as anything, it doesn't have an opening at the bottom and I don't even think the insert is elastomer. 

ILF didn't just get one lawyer for this, they have such a weak, bullshit case they had to get EIGHT incredibly overpriced lawyers to try and steamroll this complaint/lawsuit through the legal system.  I wonder how much the lawyers are getting per hour? $350+?  Whew, adds up fast.
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #62 on: August 21, 2010, 04:31:53 PM »
hey paste,

thanks for following this BS, much appreciated. 8)
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2010, 08:32:36 PM »
Still makes no sense at all...but i guess business is war~
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2010, 09:52:53 PM »
Yeah they are wrong for trying to sue, dont take it out on japanese toy makers, take it out on themselves they the ones who constructed
those nasty sticky smelly little things they claim to feel like real pussy and it doesnt! I melted my fleshlight case and flushed it down the toilet!!!
i should of taken a crap on it before i flushed it!!

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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2011, 10:39:20 PM »
Jeez, whatever happened to this big law suit that ILF made against Tenga and its distributors? I googled around and saw nothing more. Was it all just a to scare off the competition. Kind of sad really since I've bought some stuff from ILF. Well, it's nice to see Tenga products are still being sold here.  I haven't tried them yet because I'm more interested in realism and the NPG Meiki's and DNA Clone. I'd really hate it if I lost my choices and I was stuck with just one product to buy.
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2011, 02:39:06 AM »
Quote from: boldav49 on December 10, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Jeez, whatever happened to this big law suit that ILF made against Tenga and its distributors? I googled around and saw nothing more. Was it all just a to scare off the competition. Kind of sad really since I've bought some stuff from ILF. Well, it's nice to see Tenga products are still being sold here.  I haven't tried them yet because I'm more interested in realism and the NPG Meiki's and DNA Clone. I'd really hate it if I lost my choices and I was stuck with just one product to buy.

ILF can't touch with the Japanese Sex Toy Industry with a 12,000 mile foot pole, they should just give up lol well they probably already did.
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2011, 09:13:56 AM »
Yes, it's kind of weird. All that fuss and then nothing. I'm not sure why they even bothered at all. It's not like the Tenga Flip, which of course looks NOTHING like a FL, was suddenly going to steal away all their business. The simple fact is that the FLIP along with most Japanese sex toys is only available in limited quantities in the U.S. Just look around at the few retailers in the U.S. like TD who sell Japanese toys, and you will see that they run out of inventory pretty quickly on the more popular models. This of course is because toy connoisseurs like ourselves know quality when we see it, and we snap them up as soon they arrive. However, the average guy in the U.S. doesn't even know they exist, and their primary source of information regarding masturbators comes from all the glossy advertisements put out by big domestic companies like FL. Personally as an American, I'd rather see FL stop wasting their time and money on frivolous lawsuits, and instead focus their efforts on improving their nice products to make them as good if not better then the Japanese ones. However, for now I'm saving my Christmas money for the next shipment of foreign toys.
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #68 on: December 19, 2011, 02:07:40 PM »
Things likely are quiet as each company may be legally restricted in what they can say....
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2011, 04:16:13 PM »
True, true, you are correct.  The lawyers from all sides have probably told their clients to not say a word about the case.  Hopefully, they can come to some amicable agreement as there seems to be room for more manufacturers and better innovations for all types of sex toys in the world.
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Re: ILF files lawsuit against Tenga and other Japanese Sex toy Companies
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2011, 10:33:34 PM »
Quote from: ToyDemon on December 19, 2011, 02:07:40 PM
Things likely are quiet as each company may be legally restricted in what they can say....

Yeah now since you've said that, you've got a point. This could be what's going on
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