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[plokijuhyg]

 I'm thinking to get either Meiki down or Nao.

 I used Meiki up, only the enterance caused crack and other spot is fine.
And I like it.

 if you guys consider both decent(Price+sensation) and durable, which one do u guys will recommend?

[Paste]

The Down is much better than the Nao for sensation.  I got both for Christmas and I barely use the Nao, but it does seem to be very durable, no rips or damage yet.  But the Up and Down are very similar, I believe, so if you want a new sensation go with the Nao.  The Down does not seem to be as durable though, there is a small tear at the opening that is getting larger after just a couple months use.  Tough choice buddy, get both 

p.s. have you looked at the Elite Attendant Naho?  that one looks awesome IMO, wish I had $80 to blow right now.

[plokijuhyg]

Naho has good sensation ppl say in both USA and Japan. But the main problem is durability. Alomost all ppl say it got crack after 1 use.

Also thx for the reply. I should get Downer viersion. Nao costs almost $170 anyway(+shipping)

[jlk]

I was wondering is it possible to put the nao down and pound it? it seems a bit big and heavy to two handed use

[HardGay]

Well, if your going to go with one that you can just put down and pound..you will probably need the heavier one..which is Nao in this case.. but of then of course it is still too small for free hand stabilization.. maybe, stuff it between pillow or something. for free hand banging action. I'd say you'd have to go with one of the hips on TD.. those are bigger in size and can be stand alone without that much support. It does make a dent on the wallet..but it's well worth it.