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[Shimoyake]

First i wanted to say that i have read the very informative sticky thread, but it doesn't look like its been updated in a while. I'm looking to spend 30-50$ and have never tried a sleeve before. I want one that will last more then one use though. I have an average sized member. Any lube suggestions are welcome too.

[Flammz]

The toysheart ones are pretty good starter holes and fit what you're looking for.
Read reviews on them, same goes for lube.

[Shimoyake]

Thanks I'll look into that brand. Any particular model's?

[Flammz]

Hey, the R-20 is the best-selling ToysHeart product in the West, because it offers plenty variation and is quite durable. It is also popular because it supports people with longer members (which might not be ideal?).

The Innocent Younger Sister fits perfectly in your hand, and has a pronounced mid-section with dots and ribs which feels great. It does not, however, feel very 'tight', although tightness is kind of overrated: if it feels good, it feels good!

First Sexual Experience has one somewhat aggressive rib section, mimicking a "virgin's resistance". It feels good and the toy is pretty short, but the stimulation is pretty high which might or might not be what you're looking for.

The Bordeaux is a great all-rounder, but works better if you have a thick penis since it keeps the air from going out => big vacuum effect ('sucks' on your penis! feels amazing, could use this all day). It has serious durability issues, though, but that might depend. It's just not made to last a year or so.

The Fairy Onahole (limited edition) works best if you have a somewhat small penis (makes you feel more of the texture). It is really tight if you like the idea of that. It doesn't offer a lot of variation, though, but it is still good.

Almost forgot: Transfer Student. It's kind of small but packs quite the punch. It feels just great, note that there's a whole lot going on + the nubs are kind of on the hard side. Overall I'd recommend it, but it does leave you DRAINED which might or not be what you're looking for.

Some more from other vendors:
You're My idol is great, fits in hand perfectly, somewhat short, the rings in it feel heavenly; but just a couple have manufacturing issues (inspect before using, you could return it I believe).
You can surf around for a 2D wavy ripple (medium firmness): similar to the first sexual experience, cheaper.
You can surf around for a Lilith Spiral Wave (soft firmness): it's a soft, wholesome sensation, feels great.

If you consider more expensive options:
Julia + (might be too much for a beginner, stimulating, realistic, but also kind of hard stimulation. has great reviews)
Monster Wet Real, don't mind the look on this! it's truly excellent, but some say it's "too stimulating" so be prepared for that.
You can look into and read Meiki reviews (expensive!)
You can surf around for a Venus Clone (in soft or medium firmness depending on your tastes by then).


For Lube, look at best selling and read reviews. I personally use peaces, but it's hard to wash off my member. I don't care though, it feels great. Pepe wankers is similar and washes off more easily, the NPG/Meiki ones are similar too (the ones with different girls, they are somewhat alike, note that Maria smells rosey should that bother you). There's all kinds of new lotions added just recently, too, could be good.

[Shimoyake]

I think I've narrowed it down to the Julia+ or the Erotic Elder Sister. I've read the reviews and it's really close. The suction of the EES sounds great, but not really mentioned on the J+, any body know if it has any? also the J+is dual layer o will it not last as long?

[Leeoku]

I'm a newb and like he said the J+ is quite stimulating. From the Meikis it seems the dual layers are lower durability but after a few months of use mine is still like brand new (minus the opening wider etc). Durability is a big pro on j+

[Flammz]

I think I've narrowed it down to the Julia+ or the Erotic Elder Sister. I've read the reviews and it's really close. The suction of the EES sounds great, but not really mentioned on the J+, any body know if it has any? also the J+is dual layer o will it not last as long?

Maybe get the EES, and later on (EES should last a long time) you could get a Julia. Seems like a plan.
Julia doesn't really have that suction going on, but they are very different toys to begin with.

If I'd be buying just one for a very long time, I'd get the Julia for the extra $10 though, as the overall better purchase.
But if you intend to try some different things, why not. The EES seems a good starter to get used to the whole thing.

[Shimoyake]

Thanks a lot for the help Flammz. I ended up getting the Julia mainly for the fact that it is a bit more money, but we have this awesome 20% off deal on the site. So i might as well get the one for the price of the lower one while i can.