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[Thumpert]

Hi,

First of all, I'm a new user on the forum, have been reading through alot of the posts rather carefully. Love the fact how everyone on here is very helpful and most of all respectful to one another. So I'm glad to have a chance to post on this forum.

Before I let everyone in on my question, I feel a little insight in my situation would be convenient for providing possible help or insight in the matter...

I think one of the most important things is that I'm from Europe (the Netherlands to be more precise). Which makes it strange for me to post on this forum... I guess? But seeing how this seemed to be the place where I'd end up coming for information, I took the advice of an old wise men I once met in a videogame... "stay a while and listen". So I ended up reading this forum quite a bit and looking through the website (I would kill for a shop like this over here...). Personally I don't have a lot of experience with toys at all. My wife got me a fleshlight some years ago, and while at that time it seemed cool and arousing, I eventually had myself looking at other stuff since I really had the idea that this concept could be excecuted much better. And I wasn't wrong.... I eventually ended up finding information on the Meiki toys. So I eventually took the chance to order myself a Meiki 009 (Rola I believe?). While the feeling was sensationally real and so much better then the Fleshlight, this thing already had a big tear at the entrance on first use. Luckily the webshop was kind enough to let me return it and exchange for something else. This is how I ended up with a Black Fliphole, loved the feeling. Pretty intense and really able to get you off in a hurry. Not really suited for a longer session though. After well over a year of having the Fliphole and using it, I noticed some mold development (I guess I got a bit slacky cleaning it since it felt so easy to just wing it and let it dry haha). Which made me say goodbye to the Fliphole. Don't want to take any risks with that.

With that being said, this takes me to the moment as it is right now. I am on the market to look for a new toy and I want something different then the Fliphole. I've noticed that at the moments I use a toy, I usually use it to either look for a longer session or multiple sessions. Something I could enjoy for the evening (95% of the time it's for the when the wife is off doing her own thing). And thinking about all of this, I'd love to be able to have a hands-free experience, something that I would be able to use without holding the toy all the time, for example, just hang it under the desk and be able to insert myself into it and have the hands free to just look at some porn (have a fetish for condoms (especially when women give a blowjob on them) and latex I guess, not sure why but this really turns me on). And then either make it a very intense session for that moment or take it really slow, depending on the mood at that time. And don't get me wrong, I really do like the idea of a hip. I think the experience in itself would be amazing, but this does require me first of to get behind it or on top of it or something, which takes away the idea of being able to browse some porn. This combined with the price and the fact that I would need to have the wife be okay with it (which she will eventually if I explain it I think, and tell her the price slowly ) makes me think there should be a solution that would better fit me. Even though just looking at that Pure Hip it makes me kind of horny and want to just purchase it and have my way with it... I'm a sucker for anal sex I guess .

Personally I was looking at the Spider with the Meiki One sleeve or the Zini Dab. But it's hard to find any information about it anywhere. I know TD doesn't have the Spider, so I guess not many on here will have experience with it or have anymore insight on it. But I still feel that this is the best place to come for advice.

Does anyone here have any experience with a hands-free experience?

I hope some of you could give me a little more insight on the matter, and maybe share your experience. Or maybe point me in a different direction for a toy I might have missed? Or if you have any advice on a site for example where I should look for information (or possibly a review) for the Spider and other products that TD might not have.. anything is welcome at this point I guess.

Thanks for taking the time to read this! Will look forward to any help that could be provided!

-T

[toyman33]

Welcome to the forum.  I own the Spider and to me it's  about half a step above the Fleshlight.  Not bad for the price, but the suction cup is beyond frustrating.  It's very hard to get it to stay attached to  a surface.  Nothing more frustrating than to be in the middle of a session and have it fall off.  It only sticks kinda good on either glass or a mirror so that rules out under the desk fun.  Also it makes an annoying sound when you thrust due to air being pushed out of tiny holes on the bottom of the case.  In my opinion meikis are much better.  I've been looking for a convenient way to use a meiki handsfree as well, so if you discover a method please let me know.  Hope this helps.

[SonicBoom]

Welcome Thumpert!

First of all I always give props to newcomers who research before asking their questions, it really does make helping you a lot easier.

Concerning your tear in the meiki entrance, try doing a search on using a soldering iron to repair meikis.  I work with electronics so I already owned a few soldering irons, but you don't have to have a lot of experience to repair a tear.  The trick is to address the tear before it enlarges and gets out of hand.

I don't have experience with the Spider line of products but have heard it to be better than Fleshlights.  Considering Toyman33's input, maybe you could get creative and adhere a single glass mirror tile under your desk to help keep the Spider in place.  Depending on the desk I could see this being doable.  Other than that, maybe one of the electric stroker type products?

You could have a look at Omacha Dreams website, which I believe to be TD's European counterpart?  Here's a link:
https://www.omochadreams.de/en/index2.html

I hope you find some of this helpful.

SB

[Thumpert]

Thanks for the welcome and the insight.

It's a bummer to hear it doesn't stick to all of the surfaces... really a shame. As for another solution, I wish I had one, that would have made my question here so much easier Just wondering though, did you have the Meiki One sleeve for the Spider? My previous experience with Fleshlight could have been labeled with rather disappointing, so a half step up from that for me still sounds like a bad deal :S

The Meiki's still look very good to me as well, but the weird thing is that in Europe for some reason we can't seem to get the XYZ, the Meiki 005 is different over there. The other thing is, I really can't think of a solid way to make that a handsfree like experience (which is what I'm initially looking for). But if all my search attempts for something like that fails, I guess a Meiki will be something I will end up with then

Oh and SB, I've read about that soldering indeed. I didn't know that back then obviously (also, first use I don't really expect a 80 euro sextoy to tear up right away), but it's something I will take into consideration now. Even though I'm still a bit reluctant to the whole idea of having to use a tool like that on a sextoy. That's just me I guess

So yeah, the search continues I guess... for a glass desk?

Oh still have a question for you Toyman33, for the suction cap, did you use a little spit to make it stick better on the surfaces? Cause I'm just wondering how a suction cap that is supposed to stay put is only able to be used on either glass or a mirror.

Anyways, thanks for the help folks. Still open to suggestions obviously from anyone. So don't consider this problem solved!

-T

[toyman33]

Hi.  I just have default sleeve that came with the Spider.  I tried water, spit, even a little lube.  Nothing really seemed to help hold the suction for long.  Shame too because I like the concept of the Spider, but I think it could have used a little more work in the execution.

[Thumpert]

Thanks for the response.

I've been thinking about it some more, and it's fairly easy to just glue on a glass piece on the bottom of the desk (just take a picture frame and strip it for just the glass). So that still might be an option.

The fact you don't have the Meiki sleeve on one side disappoints me cause I still don't know how good it is now, but I'm glad that it's not the Meiki that was just half a step better then the Fleshlight

Also got some other device from somewhere, so I will look into my option just a little better. Once I've made the decision (tomorrow most likely) I'll let you guys know what it was and will let you know how it is.

-T

[Thumpert]

All right, as promised I'd let you guys know what I got eventually.

The choice has been the Spider with Meiki One sleeve. I just kept overthinking this whole thing and just decided I'd go get it, give it a go and see how it turns out.

I'll give a short update when it arrives

[Thumpert]

I feel I owe you folks an update on this.

The Spider has arrived, with the Meiki sleeve. And I have to say, it is very good. I can't really compare it to one of the populair Meiki's since I don't have one. But I do feel that the feeling this sleeve provides comes close to that of a woman.

The more important thing, the suction cup. It does indeed have trouble staying put on surfaces like a desk. From what I've seen, the bathroom tiles hold it up very well (might have to actually put it on there for a while and just see how long it will hold). Which obviously led me to the thinking of a solution for the desk... I've been playing with the thought of getting some glass from a photoframe and glue it on the other end of the table with some specific glue for that. But I've also been reading about people getting some good sealer tape (the ones you use to tape your boxes shut). So that might be something to look at, the only problem will be to find tape that is wide enough to cover the whole cup, cause you can't have any overlapping there, it has to be a one piece that covers the entire area.

So I might be going to a craft store and see what I can find. If this works, I'll let you guys know

-T

[Thumpert]

Allright, last update about this thing folks.

I've solved this 'suction' problem the easiest way possible I guess... First off, the tape I mentioned earlier, it didn't work. The suction cup is to big and I wasn't able to find any tape wide enough to cover the whole cup. So I went for my other idea, get some glass underneath the desk.

I went to my local DIY materials store and got me some montage tap from Pattex (any montage tape will do as long as it's a good product, I'll add a picture of the one I got). Next I went to a store where you can buy your household stuff and got myself some glass coasters (? I think that's what you call it, the things you put your glass on in order to prevent rings on your table). Obviously made sure they were bigger then the suction cup surface. When I got home, cleaned the underside of the desk, put them together and on there. And voila, suction cup doesn't let go... was afraid that I'd rip the desk apart trying to get it off

Anyways, hope this helps in any way.

-T