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[SergioRegurgio]

After trying the Sujiman Kupa Rina, I'm realizing I'm not really into the tighter toys.  I've been thinking about getting a Meiki ZXY, Venus Real, or Lilith Uterus.  Can someone who has tried them give me an idea of which is the tightest/loosest of the three?  In fact, any suggestions for looser toys would be great.  Any info is appreciated.

P.S., anyone looking for a brand new, unopened Sujiman Kupa Rina at a discount price, feel free to email me at sergioregurgio@gmail.com.  I bought a couple extras and I definitely don't need them.

[HardGay]

I'd assume bigger toys would be slightly looser so maybe Zxy or Ozawa , I don't own the Venus toys so not sure about those

[SonicBoom]

I have the ones you mentioned.  As for the Tomax toys, the material firmness really comes into play when comparing perceived tightness.  The soft or very soft versions feel looser/more gentle than the firmer versions.  I have the Venus Real, Clone and Lilith Spiral Wave in very soft material.  All are good in different ways.  I also have the Lilith Uterus in medium, which ended up to be too firm for me.  In terms of tightness, I would put them in this order(tight to loose) - Clone, Real, Lilith SW.  I plan to get the Uterus in soft eventually, it isn't available in very soft as far as I know.

The ZXY would be in between the medium and soft firmness for Tomax, leaning a little more towards soft.   

If you're looking for a slower build-up and a milder ride, I would go with the Ozawa.  For the Tomax toys, just get the soft or very soft firmness in whatever model looks good to you.  Please keep in mind that I much prefer the softer toys when evaluating my opinions.  I hope this is helpful.

SB

[SergioRegurgio]

Yes, very helpful.  Thank you for your response.  I think it's between a ZXY, Venus Clone, or Venus Real.  Leaning towards the Real currently.  I'm also trying to decide between the soft or very soft.  Probably soft, as I'm afraid I'll regret it if I get the very soft and it's not stimulating enough.  I figure I can get a very soft on my second purchase if I get the soft version at first and then I decide I want one that is even softer.  Thank you once again for your response.  I have sort of changed my mind on the Rina, btw.  I knew I used too much lube the first time (it's hard not to with the little ketchup packet of lube they give you - makes you appreciate having a good dispenser bottle), but I guess I used too much the second time too.  Cuz the third time, I was very careful to use just a dab, and the experience was much better.  I still think I'd really enjoy the experience of a looser toy, though, and I'll probably end up getting a venus real.  I'm so tempted to get a ZXY after reading all the hype, and I like the idea of the dual layer construction, but it seems the venus real or clone will be more durable.  I'll probably give myself another week or two to decide.

[SonicBoom]

The right amount of lube is super important.  The viscosity of the lube is also a key point.  Some onahos just feel better with a thinner or thicker lube for some reason.  You can thin-out a favorite lube by adding a little water BTW.

Between the Real and Clone I've found that the Clone is more stimulating.  It also retains lube much better than the Real for some reason, not sure why.  This doesn't mean that the Clone is better, just different.  Sometimes less stimulation is a good thing.  Slower build-up usually leads to a more explosive end .

The ZXY is a very good onaho that I would recommend everyone to try.  That said, the inner layer will start to peel and shed after a while.  For me this was a good thing as it made the ZXY less stimulating.  It was my favorite for a long time, until I bought the Tomax stuff. 

The Tomax very soft material is pretty durable, I've had it for over a year and there's just a little bit of "cracking" at the entrance of the Clone, none on the Real so far.  And those 2 are my most used since purchase.

You could always get both the ZXY and the Real soft.  Both are different enough to get a better idea of which direction is better for you.  Keep in mind that the ZXY is probably the most popular onaho along with the Maria Ozawa.  I love the Tomax stuff but I can only use really soft onahos, so most people's taste would be different than mine.  Good luck.

SB

[SergioRegurgio]

I thought I had it all figured out.  I ordered a ZXY, and then I figured I'd get the Venus Real very soft, and if it was too soft, well, at least I'd still have the ZXY.  Unfortunately, the Venus Real is currently out of stock in all levels of firmness, so now I'm thinking about getting a Clone.  I wonder if the Clone may be a better choice anyway if I'm going to go with a very soft toy, since the risk of buying a very soft toy is that it won't be stimulating enough, and as you said, the Clone is more stimulating than the Real.  It's just that I really like the look of the texture of the Real.  Now I'm having a hard time deciding if I should order the Clone or wait for the Real.  The Lilith Uterus is another possibility, since the texture looks the same as the Venus Real. Unfortunately it isn't available in very soft.  Also, the thickness of the Venus toys is something that I think I'll appreciate, and the Uterus doesn't have that.  I'm hoping if I get the Clone very soft it will be a nice balance between soft and stimulating.

[Leeoku]

the clone vs isnt very stimulating at all

[SonicBoom]

the clone vs isnt very stimulating at all

Leeoku is right, the Clone VS isn't stimulating at all when compared to most other meiki.  What I wrote was that the Clone is more stimulating than the Real, which is true in my opinion.

Just to clarify, the Tomax very soft material is the softest material you can imagine a toy being made of.  If the NPG single layer material is an "8", and the DNA Clone material is a "9", than the Tomax very soft material is a "10".  There are many out there that consider the Maria Ozawa as too soft and not stimulating enough.  That one is an "8". 

To truly appreciate the very soft material you have to have the complete opposite of the Death Grip Syndrome.  Unless you're really sensitive, you won't feel it much at all.  Considering this, it would probably be safer for you(SergioRegurgio) to see how much you like the ZXY before getting anything else.  The ZXY is a "7" on the softness scale BTW.

I hope this helps make things more clear.

SB