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[probater]

Hey guys!
So its been awhile and i think its time for me to get some new toys for the collection.  Alright well i already have tenga black, cherry 2, zxy, and maria.  zxy and maria are my favorite no doubt. the tenga gets the job done but its too...non realistic, and the cherry 2 is just a pain to clean and too soft and plain imo.  I'm looking for realism, tightness and suction is a plus, and good textures (cuz if i wanted a smooth canal, i wouldnt have thrown away my shitty fl)
So, i have enough xtra cash and was looking into the following. (was thinking of getting 3 but will not have to be cut to 2 since i'll definitely be getting the new meiki 006)

Erotic elder sister   -   I heard good things about the sister models but would be stuck between these 2.
innocent younger sister
like a virgin   -   i also heard like a virgin and manbow were pretty similar and both were kickass, but durability is poo
manbow
piti piti 21   -   Its something different, couldnt find many reviews, but the ones that i have seen give it a thumbs up. (does this have the same durability issues as manbow?)
seventeen evo   -   Another popular classic one but durability is meh

Of course i'm open to any recommendations that arent on the list.
Thanks in advance!

[vlskffo]

Sorry I've never used any of the three u asked. But I do own little bigger collection than u do so I would recommend you others.
Saki meiki is alright. Just like u I have Maria and zxy and tenga flipholes and I rarely use flipholes cause they don't feel realistic and somewhat louderthan meikis.
But I do use saki time to time since it is less intense than zxy or Maria I can play longer.
It's less intense but it gives just as good feelings.
Ferra master is definitely good product to try. Toys heart generally is not as good at giving realistic features as meikis but Ferra master does give something different than anything uve tried. It's kinda like zxy with stronger suction. (muchmuch stroger)
And if uve considered 17 or 17 evo. I'd definitely recommend 17 evo over old 17. 17 doesn't feel much once uve experienced superior meikis.
On the otherhand how about going for hands free product like r-1? I haven't tried it but I have realtouch and it does feel pretty good-however I wouldnt recommend RT not because toydemon doesnt have one but this thing is somewhat flawed like leaking lubes out of reservoirs and tearing the belts and such. They do give u replacement thou...
This is far as I can share with you. I recently ordered love Venus and dunno how it'll turn out. There's arent many reviews I can find. I'm hoping I can put my meikis in it.
Anyways. I'm sorry that I didn't help u narrow down but just widened ur choices.

Ps- oops u did list seventeen evo. Yep. Seventeen evo is okay. Its soft and good suction. About the durability, I only used it like 10 times? So far no damages. Plus u know how Maria becomes very sticky on the outside? I think the material is somewhat different on 17 evo and it doesnt seem like it'll become sticky like that.

[probater]

Ah i see, thanks for the info. I think i'm pretty sold on getting the 17 evo now.  I'm on a slightyly tighter budget to be able to buy myself an r-1, plus i'd imagine its a little loud no? And yea both zxy and maria get kinda sticky on the outside but its nothing a little corn starch cant fix, and i kinda built myself some tolerance to both of them aswell as i can last fairly long using both, so i'm looking for sumthing in the more stimulating department.  I'll look into the ferra master more, since i hear td's getting a new one soon.

[Thunderhead]

Innocent Younger Sister is fairly durable (been using it for almost over a year now), it stood up to almost all of the vast array of torture I put her through. The interior is still good and retains its original form, though my complaint with her and her elder sister is that it doesn't quite hug around my member enough, probably due to that little "uterus" at the end which creates an air pocket upon entry, but with proper amount of lube plus a little squeeze to release the air, both sisters are quite stimulating, if I were to regive a score for stimulation (other than the one from my review), I'd give it a 7. You can get better, but for a tight budget, the duo sisters are fantastic.

17 Evo was okay, but it also left an unpleasant image of dual layered toys. If you treat it well and the inner layer separates, you still have a sleeve to play with, but don't treat it well and you end up with nothing. I had to retire my Evo unusually early because washing it got dangerous when it began ti separate itself (and I didn't even flip it inside-out).

My suggestion (if you don't mind spending a tad more) is the Kashin 6, it has such a nice texture and interior, though some did complain about its durability.

I just ordered the Piti Piti 21, I will have a preliminary review once I get it.

[grelfod]

lots o good conversation here.  So far my first unit is the demon hole...  me likey   that surprising finger thingy in the end "head stimulator" I think it is called is very different and enjoyably.
I am really bummed cause I did not get the seventeen evo on special (black friday??) for like half price
Just have to keep checking and see when it is on special and pick up another great deal...
I have read good and bad for the flip hole but right now it is just too much to pay to find out that either you like it of hate it if it turns out that you hate it!