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[mnswing]

I have a bunch of fleshlights, and was considering a tenga flip hole, until I stumbled on this site today and learned about meiki and others. I'd like to get a new toy or two, something with an oral feel, but there's so many choices I'm interested to hear any opinions. The toy fund is a bit low, since I just bought the mrs a lelo and a sybian, otherwise I'd just order a few and a ZXY too.

A little background so you can get a sense of what I like and dislike. I'm 6" long and 5" around, uncircumcised (no problems retracting skin), points straight. My favorite fleshlights are the swallow, frankenstein, and primal. As far as the orifices go, the butt is too tight. Not terrible, but it detracts from the inner sensations. The mouth and vag are looser than I'd like. So, ideally, a bit looser than a FL butt.

The frank and primal I definitely find more stimulating, but not necessarily better as I really like the oral feel of the swallow. The frank and primal can put me over the edge without trying while barely moving them, and sometimes the swallow's not stimulating enough and it's harder than I want to finish. I've tried a few sex in a can models, like the sukit draft and succu dry and they are all sort of too tight - not unusable, but not great. I hit the end, which is no fun. I can go balls deep in the full size models, which is nice, especially when finishing.

Didn't care for the ice or the pilot, with the larger round opening inside, didn't find it stimulating at all - perhaps that's meant for guys with a head that's much bigger than their shaft. The vortex and barricuda are good, but a little too homogeneous for my tastes. Hated the heavenly, the narrow opening just inside the entrance was painful and the lube just all disappeared in that thing. Similarly, I just tried a doc johnson sasha grey deep throat sleeve, and it was ok, but it had a narrow entrance for the throat and I don't like that so pronounced. It was also a bit too short, but I'd just stretch the end instead of hitting the back of a fleshlight case.

I was thinking I'd get a SI-X Type F. For $15, why not. Though I'm curious about the Real Deep Throat, too. Both look fun in different ways. Does anyone know if the Real Deep Throat is effectively longer because of the angle?

I've seen the Fera Master and Superb Fella recommended here. Looking at the Fera Master, the inside seems a bit plain, but appears to have a smallish bumpy texture on the inside? I like that the Fera is a bit longer, so I doubt I'd have issues hitting the back. The inside of the Superb Fella looks more interesting, but less varied than either of the ToysHeart units and shorter like they are.

The HEPS Fantastic really caught my eye, but there's a lot of reviews saying the insert splits. It appears new inserts can be purchased, so that may not be a huge issue. The other issue is the dimensions I find make it seem short, like barely 5". Is that accurate? I'd be disappointed paying $75 for something I couldn't push all the way into. I really would like something easier to clean, though. That's why I was looking at the Tenga's to begin with - there's enough times I'd prefer to use a sleeve but don't because of the clean up hassle.

Is there anything else I should be considering? Any recomendations from those who have used these? Thanks much.

[mnswing]

Dead forum I guess. Anywho, I ended up ordering the Fera Master, Real Deep Throat, and the Olivia hip. I wasn't going to go as far as ordering a hip, but the idea had me a little too excited. Besides, the Mrs gets so many fun toys, gotta try and catch up a bit 

[HardGay]

I think you can also consider the superb fella 3 in the future since you already ordered.. but SI-X type F is a pretty good oral toy IMO.. and Real deep throat came from the same company I would say the quality would be pretty comparable.

[mnswing]

The Fera Master and Real Deep Throat came today. Hip comes Monday.

The Real Deep Throat is real tight. Not terrible, and probably great for thinner guys, but I doubt I'll use that much. It has a large ridge where a tongue might be that looked potentially painful, but it wasn't - it worked well. The throat entrance part was also pretty tight and tough to pass through - it feels good, but it's just all a bit small for me. The open space at the end was nice, good finishing spot. The angle, though.. I kept pushing up into the top instead of following the bend. I could only fully penetrate with certain grips on the sleeve, I'm not saying it can't be done with one hand, but it's pretty much a two handed deal for me at least. The sleeve is usable in any rotation and it was as tough, but not more so, to get around the bend with it sideways or upside down. I do like the material, which is different from other male toys, and I like that this sleeve is fairly discreet. I'd highly recommend it for guys 4.5" around and less, and if you're like 5-5.25" or longer you can get all the way to the back of this, 6.5" and longer will be stretching out the back a good ways going all the way in.

The Fera Master is excellent with the one major exception. The texture inside is relatively large, pronounced bumps and they are too intense, a bit on the firm side, and unrealistic. There's a texture down the backside of the tongue that feels amazing, but in use it's so overshadowed by the bumps. I'd like the tongue stiffer, too, but I'm sure I would feel it more if it wasn't surrounded by moguls. Despite the inner texture, I enjoy this very much. It's very versatile and stimulating and is sure to remain fun for a long time. It responds really well to varying pressure, angles, depths, rotation. But it is noisy. Slurpy slurp. The noises actually aren't that bad, but I like to have porn on low volume and the slurping can be a bit distracting. It made a good mess using it while laying on my back. When I popped out a torrent of fluid followed which caught me off guard as surprisingly hot. I tried to warm it up like a FL, but this unit didn't seem to hold heat really at all. A+ overall but not the exactly the toy I was looking for.

So, still looking for something with a smoother, more realistic feel, along the lines of the Swallow FL. I should just learn how to make these things.

[meikifanatic]

I was thinking I'd get a SI-X Type F. For $15, why not. Though I'm curious about the Real Deep Throat, too. Both look fun in different ways. Does anyone know if the Real Deep Throat is effectively longer because of the angle?

I absolutely hated the SIX Type F.  So much so that I ended up throwing it in the garbage after my first attempt.  Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake or I didn't read on how to best use it, or heck maybe I was just turned off by it's awful appearance.  At least to me, it it's dark red shape made it look too much like some bloody turd to me, and that was a serious turn-off.  And I'm a super frugal guy that never throws anything away.  Honestly, I can't understand all the positive reviews for the thing.  But then the only other onahole I was using was the ZXY, so I might have been too spoiled that I didn't give the SIX Type F any real chance to work it's so-called "magic."

I just remember slipping the thing on (and I've got a small, thin member) and remembering how it was tight and rubbing me in all the wrong places.  Sure there's suction, but even with lots of lube (Maria O) I couldn't get the thing to mimic the smooth up-n-down motion we love so much.  It kept halting awkwardly at different positions like it was stuck,never mind it was rubbing me raw in the process.  I then turned the thing inside out and found the inside ribbing resembling the fleshlights that so many of us have abandoned.  I've had better blowjobs from women who are clumsy with their teeth than from this thing.  Like I said, maybe I wasn't using it right but honestly I thought the thing was a waste of lunch money.  Darn glad the thing was cheap.

I just received my Monster Wet Real and it's looking considerably more promising...

[mnswing]

I'm skipping the SI-X Type F after trying the real deep throat, which is all but useless for me. I've used the Fera Master a couple more times now, and am more disappointed each time. It's too hard and too bumpy.

The Olivia hip did come in today, and I have to say I like that a lot. Both textures feel great and are quite realistic. The anal, especially, had a lot in common with the real thing, and the subtle ribbing works very well as an anal texture. The vag, too, felt quite natural but yet was very stimulating. Hard to last long in either end and that's impressive.

The open tunnel design seems fine, though I'm pretty sure I'll eventually want to get another hip and try closed tunnel. I can feel the lack of suction, but I wouldn't say it's detrimental to the olivia. It didn't use nearly as much lube as I expected. The material seemed to stay slippery enough without much reapplying, and it's softer and squishier like a FL which helps it from being abrasive when the lubes low. As for cleaning, I'm not sure a closed tunnel would be much more difficult. Perhaps they loosen up, but right now I certainly can't run water through the hole and have to scrub with my finger anyway.

While I've only used it once, the hip is sure to be one of my favorite toys, right up there with my top couple FL's if not above. The swallow, primal, and frankenstein aren't going anywhere soon.

So is there just nothing for good, realistic leaning oral toys? There doesn't seem to be too many more options. I may order a superb fella, but I'm concerned it is too short and wondering if it is harder like the fera or softer like the hip? I could try a tenga deep cup, but I really doubt that's going to be the experience I'm looking for. I've seen the Monster Wet Real, doesn't really look like it's intended to simulate oral. I want something a lot like the FL swallow, but a bit tighter, a bit more texture all around, and more substantial frenulum stimulation. Maybe I really do just need to learn how to mold silicon.