Search

[staedtlerman]

Looking for some advice on the ZXY if I may...

- It looks like there's no exit hole in the back of the toy, I'm not a huge fan of major suction (I once owned a fleshlight and enjoyed it more with the suction set low), so just wondering what the ZXY is like in comparison

- Per the above, is cleaning/drying difficult? I'm leaning towards the Tenga Flip for easy cleaning, but reading reviews here, I think I may enjoy the ZXY more...

[Universal]

Looking for some advice on the ZXY if I may...

- It looks like there's no exit hole in the back of the toy, I'm not a huge fan of major suction (I once owned a fleshlight and enjoyed it more with the suction set low), so just wondering what the ZXY is like in comparison

- Per the above, is cleaning/drying difficult? I'm leaning towards the Tenga Flip for easy cleaning, but reading reviews here, I think I may enjoy the ZXY more...

Suction doesn't cone to mind when I think of my ZXYs (used 2). If it's there, it's mild and not a feature. (mine's rather quiet too which leads me to believe that's the case (suction = noisier toys)

Cleaning and drying isn't hard at all. Its more laborious than a FL but not bad. Per the instructions, run cool to tepid water through it for a little bit to clean it out. Myself, I like to hit it with a stream for a bit, turn it upside down to empty, do another stream, until I feel like I'm done.  You can put a finger in there, many do, but I tend not to because I really do rinse the hell out of it and I feel like an unlubed finger (with nail) jostling around doesn't aid durability. Plus, its not mentioned on the directions so if it were needed I think it would likely be noted.

Oh, but do clean as soon after your use as possible. Leaving it in there is bad mojo and it turns into a much hard to remove substance if left in there too long.

Don't let the cleaning deter you, it sounds worse than it is and you get used to it by second or third use tops.

[Universal]

- Per the above, is cleaning/drying difficult? I'm leaning towards the Tenga Flip for easy cleaning, but reading reviews here, I think I may enjoy the ZXY more...

I find them vastly different products.  Once I got my ZXY, I moved away from all hard surfaces in my play. I realized (with the ZXY) that I really hated that aspect of FLs and Tengas.  Hard plastic instantly drops me out of whatever illusion Im going for.

That said, you've struck on 2 of the best selling, highest rated products here. I don't think you could go wrong with either but Id personally break it down like this...

Tenga - Like a super Fleshlight. And I mean out of this world compared to it. You'll be familiar with the use and hard canister.

ZXY - Out of this world in a completely different way. Theres no casing to stiffen it up so it does flop more and requires an adjustment period.  I think its the better of the two toys by a margin but then all my other toys are similar to ZXYs now and not FLs/Tengas.

[staedtlerman]

Thanks for the responses. I'm finding it a little hard to imagine the "floppy-ness" of the ZXY and how that affects the way you use it - does your grip alter the feeling inside (unlike the FL/Tenga models)? Is there a huge difference in the feeling/texutre between the Tenga & the ZXY, or are comparable? How easy is it to wedge the ZXY inbetween say some pillows for hands-free fun?

[Universal]

Thanks for the responses. I'm finding it a little hard to imagine the "floppy-ness" of the ZXY and how that affects the way you use it - does your grip alter the feeling inside (unlike the FL/Tenga models)? Is there a huge difference in the feeling/texutre between the Tenga & the ZXY, or are comparable? How easy is it to wedge the ZXY inbetween say some pillows for hands-free fun?

Good questions. Let me break it down one at a time.

I've not personally used a Tenga but from the looks of them and reviews, they are harder materials than a ZXY. This is not a bad thing per se because NPG stuff is pretty soft as far as products in the toy domain go.

ZXY is heavier than most Meikis and has a certain chunky/floppyness to her.  Imagine a cylindrical hunk of rubber with a secondary inner layer giving it most of its support. In hand, it does jiggle and bounce a bit. You do have to steady it somewhat. Id say its heavy enough without being shapely that it needs two hands for support. Since most mbate with one, this is yet another change to their process.

Textures are pretty different even within the same company's line that Id say its rare two toys, especially from different companies, could be considered the same. But then, I have a ton of these things and notice the nuanced differences because of my experience.

Hands free with the ZXY wasn't ideal but it wasn't a chore either. She has a pretty wide base so horizontal, nestled in a pillow, can be very doable depending on the angle of your dangle.  I'd say her doggystyle performance (flipping her front side down) isn't likely going to go well unless you really have a good pillow setup (shes rounded on that side so she'd roll)

Between the two, Id say a pseudo-handsfree works best with the ZXY. But, if you are used to FLs and that style doesn't bother you, Tenga stuff really is great and a whole different class of product than you're used to.

I'd also consider the Tenga Black if I were you.  Even tho Im off plastics, I really do think Im gonna pick up that device one day, it looks pretty impressive.

As to what would best suit you, you've not really said anything about yourself that leads me on way or another. Factors such as your size, how you play now, frequency, what you want out of the experience, etc etc etc all come into play.

ZXY is a good all arounder and Id say a good buy for most guys. But there are outliers of course. More we know, better we can help.

[meikifanatic]

The guys here are far more skilled and experienced than I am with cleaning the ZXY, but I'm getting the hang of it.  I too direct streams of tap water into the onahole to rinse it out; I also apply soap and stick my finger deep in to apply it on the inner walls to get rid of the deposited gunk.  How do I test if the hole's clean?  Uh, weird though it sounds, I insert a finger deep into the hole after I'm convinced everything's cleaned out, remove it and take a whiff of the finger.  You'll KNOW if the ZKY is still holding traces of your liquid manhood or not.   

Tricky thing is, due to all the funky curves and ridges inside the ZXY, your essence can still cling to small "pockets," ridges or indents inside after what you think is a good water rinse -- hence the finger test.  Well, it works for me, at least.  And if I want it to dry fast (say, the GF is due to return home soon), I then hit the ZXY with a shot of Isopropyl Alcohol and pray the damn thing dries up fast...

One other note; I don't know how the heck these guys get ZXY into the MPD.  Seeing the Julia+ inserted into the MPD in another thread really has me scratching my head.  I wrapped my ZXY up tight, tried plastic bagging her, used an ace bandage -- and it was still no go.  And I'm not about to cram/pummel in a costly onahole into my MPD with the potential of damaging her or tightening her circumference so tiny that I need a shoe horn to get in.  And I'm quite a "small" guy...   

[Universal]

One other note; I don't know how the heck these guys get ZXY into the MPD.  Seeing the Julia+ inserted into the MPD in another thread really has me scratching my head.  I wrapped my ZXY up tight, tried plastic bagging her, used an ace bandage -- and it was still no go.  And I'm not about to cram/pummel in a costly onahole into my MPD with the potential of damaging her or tightening her circumference so tiny that I need a shoe horn to get in.  And I'm quite a "small" guy...   

There may be differences in ZXY to ZXY but I can say Ive opened and used 2 of mine and while its no slide right in, it is NOT forceful  at all.
What I do is wrap in 1 1/2 times around in cling wrap (the stuff you cover food with) Its mm thick and sorta slick on one side. Wiggle the ZXY about a third of the way down her body then lightly twist her from about 10 oclock to 2 oclock. Just roll your wrist back and forth and it'll happen rather easily.  Also, I dont try to get the bottom in so shes in place but not flush by any means (her bottom hangs out for sure)
Also, are you moving the stuffing around inside the M Pl? Put your hand in and move whats in the way over to her hips and maybe yuo can get a little into the legs. Be careful not to bust up the belly button though. You'll fee a string that holds the belly button and back "in". Work gently around it.

As long as you dont expect it flush with the body of the doll, the Julia and ZXY can go in pretty solidly, certainly enough for use (thats all I used my zxy with for 9 months) Part the stuffing, wrap the body of ZXY, light pop in, little twists back and forth untl you run out of backend room. She should be in solid enough for use but not fliush. Im so used to it now shes done in 5 seconds, 10 tops. 

[meikifanatic]

Thanks Universal; I'll give it a go when I'm alone tomorrow.  I guess I should have been more patient and perhaps a little less paranoid about the fragility of the ZXY.  Good tip about the MPD stuffing; didn't think about that.  I'll try to redistribute some of the filling without being overly zealous with it. 

Up to this point, I've been cling wrapping and then duct-taping the ZXY to a waist-height wooden bench, and though it holds okay and affords some hands-free action, it takes a LOT of imagination to really enjoy the sessions, lol.  All while my well-dressed MPD just sits there, watching the absurd scene in horrified silence...

[Universal]

Thanks Universal; I'll give it a go when I'm alone tomorrow.  I guess I should have been more patient and perhaps a little less paranoid about the fragility of the ZXY.  Good tip about the MPD stuffing; didn't think about that.  I'll try to redistribute some of the filling without being overly zealous with it. 

Wanting to take care of someone that treats you so well is nothing to apologize for. I think ,on the surface, the lengths we go to clean and take care of our Meikis and assorted gear looks rather insane. But once you know and understand just what they are capable of, its not so odd to take care of them because in a way they take care of you. Unconventionally, yes but they do.

Up to this point, I've been cling wrapping and then duct-taping the ZXY to a waist-height wooden bench, and though it holds okay and affords some hands-free action, it takes a LOT of imagination to really enjoy the sessions, lol.  All while my well-dressed MPD just sits there, watching the absurd scene in horrified silence...

Meiki Plush is an old school sort of girl. Shes more into you being happy than her own agenda. She does like to feel useful though so don't keep her out of the loop too long. 

[staedtlerman]

One last question - I watched a few online vids of the Tenga Flip in action and it sounds pretty loud - is the ZXY also loud?

[Universal]

One last question - I watched a few online vids of the Tenga Flip in action and it sounds pretty loud - is the ZXY also loud?

I felt like my ZXY wasn't loud as a rule but its so hard to judge these things because people all have different ideas of whats loud enough to distract/get caught.

If you properly lube and dont go thrashing about, I think the ZXY is able to fly under the radar so to speak if you need to. Overlube or get aggressive and she sounds up accordingly.

[HardGay]

Tenga flip hole compared to others definitely are a little bit louder IMO when stroking..but I suppose like Universal said, it all depends on how fast your stroking...for someone who like long slow strokes...most of the toy dont make much sound haha, unless you get any of the electric toys then it's another story.

[Universal]

Tenga flip hole compared to others definitely are a little bit louder IMO when stroking..but I suppose like Universal said, it all depends on how fast your stroking...for someone who like long slow strokes...most of the toy dont make much sound haha, unless you get any of the electric toys then it's another story.

HardGay hit on something I probably should have mentioned.  Yeah, low and slow go is the key to quiet and properly matching a sleeve to that style is pretty critical.

The ZXY is FANTASTIC low and slow. That hump gives you a lot of highly charged surface area to work with that doesnt need speed to maximize sensation. I think the YJY is much closer in this area than given credit. Still, if I had to sneak around the ZXY would probably be my top choice.

The O however, can be a bear to hide.