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[phoenix727]

i am having a terrible time deciding between all of these. ive been doing some research and have narrowed it down to these. im in a transitional situation right now and need them to last me around four months or so. i know durability is an issue with some of these. ultimately im looking for something realistic rather than overly stimulating. id also like something that will increase my stamina, although its pretty good anyway. im about 7 inches long and six around. i didnt have space to add the zxy. i am also open to other suggestions. thanks for the help!

[bhh]

Someone with experience with the newer ones would be best to post here but I'll give some knowledge. I have the Maria and ZXY and I can say my Maria came with the interior off-center/slanted (which I cannot say if this is common) but this does affects the feeling. I can also say mine doesn't seem to be very durable as the exterior keeps getting worse like it's tearing or losing material. The overall toy is very soft though and feels good if you can get past that slanted interior. Of course YMMV.

The ZXY on the other hand I have not had any durability issues with but the interior is of another material. This causes it to be much more stimulating and while a lot like this I kind of felt the material was too firm.

Also the Meiki Sisters are back in stock and I've heard decent things about those. While not technically NPG brand I hear they are soft and realistic. I just ordered the Meiki Sister Virgin myself to give it a try.

Anyone else want to comment on the other Meikis?

[phoenix727]

its funny you should bring that up about the ozawa model. i was wondering if maybe it had been corrected by the manufacturer. i just figured id examine it before i opened the package to make sure it wasnt one with the off center hole. thats exactly why i was thinking about a newer model. ive heard great things about the zxy all over the internet, so ive been looking at that one pretty closely. i looked at the three sisters and considered ordering that one actually. i should also mention, i have a venus real soft and seveteen bordeaux. i like the venus real and it is my favorite. i like the seventeen in terms of tightness, but i love the way the venus feels. i just feel like the meikis are probably a lot better than it.

[Flammz]

Durability-wise the single layers would have the advantage. As is said above, the Maria is great but the Hibiki should have better quality control. Dual layers feel amazing too, but more firm -> more stimulating. It's kind of up to your and your taste.

What firmness did you get the Venus in? If you got it in Soft, the single layers will definitely be good. If you got it in Normal, the dual layers would come closer to it (although a little firmer than Tomax' Normal). I don't know about the Meiki Sisters, never tried them (the end of the canal seemed too dangerously close to the end of the hole to me and I'm about as big as you- I've pierced through some holes because of that in the past T_T).

[phoenix727]

i got the venus in soft, it feels pretty good. you brought up a good point about the three sisters. its a bummer there are those issues with the maria ozawa. i definitely dont want to spend 85 dollars on something and have it molded wrong. so far im leaning towards her and sarah, despite the issues. i am kind of curious about the eiro chika, ive been reading its a close feeling to the maria. i realize these arent the real thing, but id like to find something to keep my libido in check for the next four months or so. ive also noticed the japanese seem to favor the yjy. 

[Flammz]

i got the venus in soft, it feels pretty good. you brought up a good point about the three sisters. its a bummer there are those issues with the maria ozawa. i definitely dont want to spend 85 dollars on something and have it molded wrong. so far im leaning towards her and sarah, despite the issues. i am kind of curious about the eiro chika, ive been reading its a close feeling to the maria. i realize these arent the real thing, but id like to find something to keep my libido in check for the next four months or so. ive also noticed the japanese seem to favor the yjy.

I've had a Sarah. I doubt it would last the full 4 months. The Maria would probably be good, it is a bit of a gamble though from what I've read. I've also had an Eiro Chika. TBH I'd get the Hibiki instread if you go for the newest ones, or just stick to good old Maria- Chika seems an unneccesary in-between (it's also priced the cheapest on the Japanese market- raises questions to me).

Edit: somewhat off-topic, but the 009 seems to have released in Japan. It's single layer- seems to be similar to the Hibiki (upgrade?).
Won't be out overseas for quite for quite some time though probably (sorry for the tease D: ).

[phoenix727]

thanks for your help!  you knew exactly what i was wondering about regarding sarah  im looking forward to seeing 009! thanks for the info. for now i im thinking i might go with maria and hibiki so i have some variety. i was curious to try one of the dual layers, i think theres a reason theyre going back to the single layers though. i definitely wont waste the money on sarah if the construction is that bad. ive been on and off with toys for a while now and have had plenty break, haha! i dont think ill ever be completely done with these things, LOL! one question i have about maria is whether or not you can tell before it is out of the package, or is it really a gamble?

[Flammz]

one question i have about maria is whether or not you can tell before it is out of the package, or is it really a gamble?

You could carefully open and feel inside the toy if the canal is lined up properly- if it isn't I think you can still return the item if you haven't *used* it yet, maybe mail toydemon regarding that.

Maria+Hibiki seems good, but there might not be as much variety between the two as you might expect. Both are soft single layer products from the same manufacturer, so quite similar. It'd probably still be great though, but Maria/Hibiki + ZXY/YJY (I'd recommend the ZXY considering your length) will offer more variety (although the second one probably won't last the full 4 months) if you go for two different toys.

[phoenix727]

my initial thought was to go with a dual layer and a single layer, but the durability issues with those are what concern me. not like i expect it to last forever, but i would like it to last longer than 30 uses. i should also mention i purchased a sujiman kupa rina a month ago. its actually held up quite well surprisingly enough, thats why i thought the dual layers were a bit more durable. it sounds like theyve gotten close with the hibiki, unsure about the chika.  one way or the other ill post reviews and let you know what i decide.

[Nihonfan]

Hi Phoenix, I recommend you to buy just one NPG meiki and a more medium meiki (e.g. from the + series): (. With those you hopefully better know what you like or not like (too soft? too loose? expected more for that price etc.). I think a meiki will still save you shipping costs so you can easily delay your second buy.

[phoenix727]

ive looked at the clone hoshino and it seems interesting. maybe that and maria/hiibiki? i may even just order 3 of them.

[SonicBoom]

Hey Pheonix727,

I happen to have all of the ones you listed as choices above, I also have a few others from different manufacturers.  I thought I would share my opinion with you, but keep in mind that I prefer really soft meiki over really stimulating ones.

If I were starting all over and knowing what I know now, I would choose the ZXY and the Hibiki.  I've had the ZXY for over a year now, and while I'm losing pieces of the inner layer every time I use it, it's still really fun.  IMO, it has actually gotten better over time.  I think that is because half of the inner layer material is gone and it's a much softer meiki now compared to when it was new.  No matter which new ones I get, I keep coming back to this one.

I've always liked the Hibiki a lot.  It's just the ideal single layer IMO.  It's more stimulating than Maria and Eiro Chika, but still soft and realistic.  It's especially good in the Meiki Plush doll, but still really nice by itself.

While the two above are always favorites of mine, my favorite at the moment is the Tomax Venus Clone very soft.  It has been since I got it a month ago.  It is very subtle and really, really soft.  Much softer than anything else I have, including the Hoshino.  Because of this softness, it may not be for everyone as it would depend on your personal sensitivity level.  It will probably be TOO soft for most people, but is just mind blowing for me.

I hope this helps and doesn't make your choice harder.

SB

[phoenix727]

thanks for your input, i appreciate the help. the zxy gets so many good comments, ill probably get it just out of curiosity! the pics of her with the hairy armpits crack me up (not that i havent nailed a hippie chic before) im going to place my order tomorrow after work. i have found i prefer softer material, but i havent tried a single or dual layer meiki, so what would i know. i will let you guys know what i decide and probably write a review or two. i havent thought about a purchase this much in a while. i looked at the fed ex shipping costs and i may just order three because i know ill end up ordering more eventually. that way i dont have to think about another order for a bit and dont have to donate an additional ten dollars or whatever it is to fed ex. its only a few dollars extra when you add an item. im going to be doing a lot of travelling so im counting every penny atm. im pretty stoked to try these out.

[phoenix727]

i decided to go with the maria first, just based on the reviews and the fact that it seems to last longer. im thinking the zxy is next. i just got the maria today, stuck a finger in and that hole is centered, LOL! ill post a review after a few sessions. no time to try her out, gotta go to work