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[Universal]

Hello all.

Had the strangest experience with my long awaited ZXY. First time was really good. Somewhat snug, stimulating, probably better than I could have hoped for and worth double the price.

Second was similar though a little lesser in overall pleasure. I assumed it was my own body's  adjustment not some change in the ZXY.

Time three in came the usual split people speak of. Down to and ever so slightly through the bottom of the lips. I forced myself to get over it. If the sensation stayed, Id be more than fine. It semi seemed to but I didn't link the split to any change on that particular time.

But that's the thing, it hasn't. It's so far different that I honestly find it more frustrating than enjoyable at this point.  There used to be some stimulation around the base/entrance. That is totally gone. And the mid sleeve which was the bulk of the experience, is nearly gone and so unsatisfying that I either bury to the end of the sleeve and hope I get enough from just end stimulation to pop (it used to be so much more "all over"  )or give up the task completely.

Im likely at 5 total times with the ZXY with something like 7ish tries. (a couple were less than a minute affairs. It felt pointless.)

Any clue as to where it went wrong?  All possibilities (myself, the toy, whatever) will be considered.

My care of it felt solid. I used only the included lube until I ran out (I used it for other toys as well. I like it)  then started using the Maria Ozawa Love Potion (but only twice) which many have said was perfectly acceptable to do.

Never heated, only rinsed in cool to cold water, alcohol once. Lubed single finger during any cleaning, handling, penetration. And Im built like a toy soldier (my equipment is likely below any statistical norm/average but not by much.) I had it upside down to dry mostly. No towels but did lubed finger it open to allow the bulk of the water a way out.

And it was pretty gentle activity. Im kinda oversensitive these days so fast or rough and tumble ends things far sooner than Id like.

Im so bummed. Im reading all sorts of reviews and wishlisting a ton for my "end of the world" order but whenever I see the ZXY I start to worry this could happen with my new acquisitions.

As much as losing the ZXY experience was, I think its the slow dying of my hope thats getting me most. Any thoughts guys?

If you think its just me, could you recommend another meiki similar that wouldnt have this usage curve?  Im sticking with Meiki, sticking with TDemon. Just need some help navigating the products since I may be unique.

Like if ZXY is a 9.5 (god it was great) that goes to a 6/5. Then Id be better off with a 7.5 that stays a 7 type.

Well, thanks for reading. Hope everyone has a good holiday and I truly thank those who helped in my purchases (if you see this) even if it seems Im not so thrilled.

-Uni

[Captainawesome]

 Hey Universal,

           You're not alone with Zxy. The dual layered toys aren't as durable as some of the single layered toys. The Zxy I owned split as well, it happens to a lot of people. The lube that comes with the toy is good and thick but the entrance to that toy is also like a black hole for lube. It just sucks it right on in and leaves the insertion area dryer than it should be. I noticed that with when I had mine. Maria's lube is probably the best to use because it's runnier and can be applied better but you kind of have to make sure the lips/entrance on Zxy doesn't dry up on you. I'm not sure if you got the bundle for Zxy or just the Meiki. I recall it comes with just a little pack of lube. You do sometimes have to use "more" of the thicker lubes because they dry out fast. So while the inner part of your meiki might be well lubricated the outer lips may be "dry" and not lubricated enough avoid wear from friction. You may not notice though because your sliding in and out the toy giving you the illusion that it's still lubricated well.

Some Meiki's loosen up of course once they get that split the sensations are less tense. You can try to melt it back together and repair it with a soldering iron if you're pro. Then again you might be packing a tree trunk in your pants and maybe that's the reason who knows? 

[Universal]

 Hey Universal,

           You're not alone with Zxy. The dual layered toys aren't as durable as some of the single layered toys. The Zxy I owned split as well, it happens to a lot of people. The lube that comes with the toy is good and thick but the entrance to that toy is also like a black hole for lube. It just sucks it right on in and leaves the insertion area dryer than it should be. I noticed that with when I had mine. Maria's lube is probably the best to use because it's runnier and can be applied better but you kind of have to make sure the lips/entrance on Zxy doesn't dry up on you. I'm not sure if you got the bundle for Zxy or just the Meiki. I recall it comes with just a little pack of lube. You do sometimes have to use "more" of the thicker lubes because they dry out fast. So while the inner part of your meiki might be well lubricated the outer lips may be "dry" and not lubricated enough avoid wear from friction. You may not notice though because your sliding in and out the toy giving you the illusion that it's still lubricated well.

Some Meiki's loosen up of course once they get that split the sensations are less tense. You can try to melt it back together and repair it with a soldering iron if you're pro. Then again you might be packing a tree trunk in your pants and maybe that's the reason who knows? 

Thanks C.A.
Yeah, I learned about the splits in reviews and accepted that as fate. I think Id be okay if the lips fell off completely so long as it gave me the sensations back. 

The lube I used 85% of the time was the included ZXY lube. It was SOOOO much better than anything Id ever used before I stuck with it exclusively. Then when I ran out (it was a fairly sized bottle I think) I switched to the m.o. love.

Im willing to accept I may not have a handle on proper lube use so maybe thats my problem? The weird thing is I seemed to get it REALLY right the first time. ( beginners luck?  ) I did all sorts of variations in my later tries. More lube, less, quicker to use water to thin, wait it out longer, etc etc. While I will agree it made a difference and helped at times, the best I could achieve was "bland" feeling. *sigh* Then I started the learning lube process all over when I had to transition to the MO Love Potion (which was great. Im buying more.)

Im no pro at soldering. Never picked up one in my life. But if I needed to learn the skill to stay happy in Meiki culture, I would happily (where does one train for sex toy repair? Is it one of those late night diploma offers from the diploma mills? Can I add tv/vcr repair for only $5 dollars more?!!!)

And no, no tree trunk. Last time I did serious measure I was within 1/4 inch of "standard american size" at the time (all sorts of studies but Im below 6 and no girth)

Thanks for helping me out. I used a lot of your post to decide what to buy last time and am doing so again for the apocalypse. I mean, sure since we'll all be dead I shouldnt stress over it so much but in case we survive, I want meiki satisfaction until the end really DOES come.

-Uni

[Universal]

Well being motivated to try and solve my problem, I decided to give ZXY another go and really focus on sensations, lube control, etc. etc. I even went to WalMart and got a spray bottle so if I dumb lucked into a good experience (based on lube/water ratio control) I could easily replicate it.

It was better than the last two times but still around (but a little above) average.

I've seen some people say things like use "one or two drops" of MO love lotion but that has never seemed even remotely right/even possible. I didnt use a ton but certainly not a drop or two.

Base was utterly non existent. Mid sleeve was low mostly but occasionally mildly stimulating. Had to do all my work at the end, some in the transition to the back but mostly have the back surround.

Id say I got closer than I have in any recent past but I still had to revert to a FL for help. I quit my hand and those pretty much since ZXY came because it was suggested in a post or two.

Man I want to figure this out. I just hate not knowing where it went wrong or what to expect from future Meikis.

Bummed. 

[Noobmember]

Yeah dual layer breaks so easily. I was really careful not to damage mine. I made sure not to be rough on it and even let it air dry instead of using a towel. The inner layer still tore up in no time, but it never stopped feeling good.

[SonicBoom]

I had to warm up to the ZXY.  It was only OK at first, but got better as I learned how to use it.  It became one of my favorites after that.  It's starting to get old now and there's not much left of the inner layer, so it doesn't quite feel the same anymore.  It may be time for a new one.

The only thing I can think of for you is you may be suffering from high expectations because of your first experience with it.  Maybe you were anticipating such a mind-blowing experience after that that there's no way you or the meiki could live up to it.  I'm not sure if that makes any sense, but try going into it with no expectations and just let it happen.

I would get bored playing with the same meiki over and over again no matter how good it was.  So I almost never use the same meiki two consecutive times.  I do have my favorites, but I always change it up.  Maybe this could work for you?

SB

[boldav49]

I have to agree with Captainawesome that part of the problem to splits, especially at the entrances to toys, is that the openings seem to dry out first.  I always find myself relubing that area so much so that I eventually started making up my own lube out of vegetable glycerin and xanthan gum.  I won't say my concoction is as good as the Maria lube, but I'm not afraid to use plenty of it, and I always rehydrate it up along the way with a spray bottle filled with warm water.  However, I also believe like most here, that the dual layer Meikis tend to wear out quicker in general; therefore,  I've migrated back to the single layer toys myself. Lastly, I too rotate my toys around so that the more fragile ones last longer.

[Universal]

The only thing I can think of for you is you may be suffering from high expectations because of your first experience with it.  Maybe you were anticipating such a mind-blowing experience after that that there's no way you or the meiki could live up to it.  I'm not sure if that makes any sense, but try going into it with no expectations and just let it happen.

SB

I see your point but to be honest, I kinda had low expectations at the start. I just wanted to try Meiki as I'd heard good things and always am up for giving something else a shot.

The first time crippled me, seriously. My brain was endorphin soup the rest of the day. I knew it was "newness" and it wouldn't last. And when I tried it for a second time, that felt "just right." Like, your used to it now, this is where it will settle in. Don't expect the thrill of the first and be glad its still this good.

Third time was disconcertingly worse but I settled myself on that would be the long term feel and it was still pretty good.

Fourth went off the cliff.

Every one since has followed suit until last nights *slight* improvement.  And to be honest, if it takes as much time,  consideration, concentration, and obscene amount of lube, its probably not worth it.

I would get bored playing with the same meiki over and over again no matter how good it was.  So I almost never use the same meiki two consecutive times.  I do have my favorites, but I always change it up.  Maybe this could work for you?

Im going to mix it up as you suggest. The only reason I haven't is the ZXY has scared my ccard into hiding in my wallet.  The money's really neither here nor there honestly. I just don't want to have the same hope crushing experience again. Especially since these Meikis are the centerpiece of the Meiki Plush system Im determined to try. *sigh*

[Universal]

I have to agree with Captainawesome that part of the problem to splits, especially at the entrances to toys, is that the openings seem to dry out first.  I always find myself relubing that area so much so that I eventually started making up my own lube out of vegetable glycerin and xanthan gum.  I won't say my concoction is as good as the Maria lube, but I'm not afraid to use plenty of it, and I always rehydrate it up along the way with a spray bottle filled with warm water.  However, I also believe like most here, that the dual layer Meikis tend to wear out quicker in general; therefore,  I've migrated back to the single layer toys myself. Lastly, I too rotate my toys around so that the more fragile ones last longer.

Thanks for this. Im going to the Xanathan gum solution soon myself (amazon=slow for the holidays) Maria is tops by far but Im already ripping through the bottle at break neck pace.

As for lube with the ZXY, it feels like I couldnt possibly have been using too little. The bottle that comes with it isnt huge, but its no small amount and is thick/sticky as all get out. Recharged with water easily too. And I used it all up (though with other things, other activities too but those werent heavy use)

And I even tried scaling back on lube too, just to see the opposites effect (I worried I was "drowning" the little nubs or whatever. Same deal. Well no, obviously worse and a few strokes of that told me that was NOT my answer.

And I always use plenty of lube on the orifice. It was in the directions to do so and I, for whatever reason, enjoy the process so it adds to my stimulation.

I get that the duals can wear out quickly but 4-5  times of low impact "work?"  It just seems if it were this fast for everybody, there'd be mobs forming daily of people who spent money on a meiki for $20 per experience.

I dont believe this is so. Im happy to fix myself if I am the cause. Just need to get to the root of it.

To your single layer point, I think I may have to go that route for try number two for my own sanity. (still resolved to figure out this problem though) Any one have any good suggestions re: a top tier single layer?

I see the MO gets tons of love but my curiosity over the newer one layers is high. MO would be a known "good" commodity but Ive seen some get disenchanted with her once moving to later iterations of Meikis (in the same line or a totally different one)

[SonicBoom]

Please take my recommendation with a grain of salt, as everyone's tastes are a little different.  Not to mention that everyone's length, girth, shape and sensitivity of their penis is also different.

That said, of the single layered meiki's that I have(Maria Ozawa, Eiro Chika, Hibiki Ootsuki) My current favorite is the Hibiki followed by the Eiro Chika. 

Once you "fix" the initial tear when first using these, I have to say that they are pretty durable, especially compared with the dual layered meiki.

SB

[Leeoku]

So following by the gist, single generally last more than duals? (Want the most duration for the purchase too poor la)

[Universal]

Please take my recommendation with a grain of salt, as everyone's tastes are a little different.  Not to mention that everyone's length, girth, shape and sensitivity of their penis is also different.

That said, of the single layered meiki's that I have(Maria Ozawa, Eiro Chika, Hibiki Ootsuki) My current favorite is the Hibiki followed by the Eiro Chika. 

Once you "fix" the initial tear when first using these, I have to say that they are pretty durable, especially compared with the dual layered meiki.

SB

Ive had the Eiro high for awhile. Kept picking up other things though thinking ZXY would suffice until this sale which Id pick up Meiki #2

Hibiki pulls at my soul. It looks so awesome but since its (seemingly) new there is limited reviews running around. Add in the fact I have the ZXY which is maybe at the top or THE top and its faultering,  you can see why Im hesitant to take another "flyer"

Good to know Im sorta on the right track with my wishlist though.