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[demondabbler]

For the virgin toy collector, I warn you that the grass may not be greener on the other side. Your first foray into condom sex will be unbelievable. But stick around a while with that same girl and you may start reaching for your Meiki more than you think.

There is no doubt that sex provides a wider range of stimuli than self-pleasuring with Japanese toys. There is touch, intimacy, seduction, spur-of-the-moment, knee-shaking passion. But unfortunately, babies must be prevented and not every girlfriend wants to or is willing to use birth control. The end result? Condom sex.

The other thing we know is that having sex for the first time with a given girl is much more rewarding and pleasurable than having sex with the same girl for the fiftieth time.

I would therefore like to propose the following scale of "member" satisfaction, based on my own experiences. I have dated and had relations with many girls.

The following scale assumes everyone is STD safe and the girl is on birth control:

First-time, unprotected, heat of the moment sex > First-time, condom, heat of the moment sex > Committed relationship, several years together, unprotected sex > Meiki toys + pornography > committed relationship, several years together, condom sex > melancholy left hand

The implications of this theory, if correct, suggest that men who are in committed relationships would prefer unprotected sex to Meiki Toys + porn, but that they would favor Meiki toys + porn to long-term relationship condom sex.

Does your scale look the same? Do Meiki toys make condom sex less enjoyable than it used to be? Have you ever drained yourself and had a girlfriend wondering why you weren't in the mood?

Curse and bless you, Japanese ingenuity!

Demondabbler

[johnhiggin]

I haven't had sex in a very very long time yet what I noticed back then was the thought of "getting some" was more exciting than the actual act. I'd be excited during the days or week thinking about when I'd see my gf and us going to town and when I'd be in the act I'd just lose that excitement and while I wouldn't say I wanted to be doing something else, it was definitely a feeling of how there wasn't anything special about it and I found the feeling of a vagina to be a bit weird in that my penis felt like it was a bit disconnected from my body. I much preferred getting and giving oral to intercourse. One problem I think is that all that stuff you mention about the seduction, intimacy and so forth didn't really register with me. Also, sex gets so hyped up that I think anyone who isn't brainwashed by the hype will be let down during it since society acts like it is the most amazing thing ever when it is not. So I think that factored in. I pity the virgin males out there who are expecting to experience heaven so to speak and a feeling that they have never come close to feeling while jerking off and will find out it is not that.

I do notice I am this way with regarding being letdown with something after hyping it up. Another example is if I am going to see a friend for a few days or a week I haven't seen in a while. I will be excited to see him since it will be years and then hanging out I will wish to end hanging out after maybe a day. I guess I am just weird.

Oh an I also preferred condom sex to bare simply because it was less messy and easier to control my stimulation. I was in my early 20s then so maybe it'd be different now.

As for sex toys, I honestly can't say I get this "anticipation is greater than the reward" feeling. I like jerking off with my toys and enjoy the act as much as thinking about it.

The funny thing is this may make me sound like I'd be a "horrible lay" and just look to get my thrusts in and be done and not care about the woman's pleasure yet that is anything but the case. I always made sure my partner was pleasured and got off multiple times each session.

[demondabbler]

I haven't had sex in a very very long time yet what I noticed back then was the thought of "getting some" was more exciting than the actual act. I'd be excited during the days or week thinking about when I'd see my gf and us going to town and when I'd be in the act I'd just lose that excitement and while I wouldn't say I wanted to be doing something else, it was definitely a feeling of how there wasn't anything special about it and I found the feeling of a vagina to be a bit weird in that my penis felt like it was a bit disconnected from my body. I much preferred getting and giving oral to intercourse. One problem I think is that all that stuff you mention about the seduction, intimacy and so forth didn't really register with me. Also, sex gets so hyped up that I think anyone who isn't brainwashed by the hype will be let down during it since society acts like it is the most amazing thing ever when it is not. So I think that factored in. I pity the virgin males out there who are expecting to experience heaven so to speak and a feeling that they have never come close to feeling while jerking off and will find out it is not that.

I do notice I am this way with regarding being letdown with something after hyping it up. Another example is if I am going to see a friend for a few days or a week I haven't seen in a while. I will be excited to see him since it will be years and then hanging out I will wish to end hanging out after maybe a day. I guess I am just weird.

Oh an I also preferred condom sex to bare simply because it was less messy and easier to control my stimulation. I was in my early 20s then so maybe it'd be different now.

As for sex toys, I honestly can't say I get this "anticipation is greater than the reward" feeling. I like jerking off with my toys and enjoy the act as much as thinking about it.

The funny thing is this may make me sound like I'd be a "horrible lay" and just look to get my thrusts in and be done and not care about the woman's pleasure yet that is anything but the case. I always made sure my partner was pleasured and got off multiple times each session.

Hey John,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us! I really enjoyed reading your story. I for one am a sucker for the anticipation and buildup, which of course decreases as you stay with someone for longer. It's hard for me to relate with how you prefer condom to bare! From my perspective bare feels so much better, and I don't mind the cleanup . At least I don't have to wash her, turn her upside down, and then jam a tampon in her to dry HAHAHA!

You are right that our society hypes sex up. I think that it is especially hard for a porn-addicted generation because their vision of sex and differ so much from what it actually is, especially those first few fumbling forays.

I totally know what you mean about hanging out with some people and then just wanting to go home. Also, I can identify with that 'out of body experience' from when your penis is taken hostage by a woman, though I would generally regard that as a positive thing .

I liked your warning to virgin users of Meiki products. In many ways, Meiki products can actually feel more stimulating than sex (subtracting all the nice perks of intimacy, talking here only about penile stimulation). Add to that the most of us watch pornography (which probably ruins our dopamine receptors to real-life stimuli), and it could make for an embarrassing first time.

Demondabbler

[DaaaBears]

That's a lot to process, but I will put in my $.02.

I used to think sex was the most important thing too!!! But that was in my early 20s when in college all I had to do was play games, watch porn, and study here and there. There was so much time and so many girls around campus that sex is constantly on my mind.

Now in my early 30s, not that sex isn't important or anything, but I am so busy with everything else in life that it's just not the same compared to before...... I still enjoy sex with my gf but def. not the same as what it used to be. Toys on the other hand, makes it much simpler because it was all about me. It was "me" time. The feeling of worrying about me and me only is a nice feeling to have. For that 30 mins or so, I do not have anything to worry about other than my meiki and plush doll (I live by myself and my GF knows about the meikis, but not the doll, LOL.)

Maybe I don't look to have sex as much because I am too familiar with my gf, or maybe because the Plush and the Meikis relieve me of my needs so I don't need it as much........but I do know that if I had meikis and a plush doll back in college, it would get used probably 2-3 times a day.

[demondabbler]

That's a lot to process, but I will put in my $.02.

I used to think sex was the most important thing too!!! But that was in my early 20s when in college all I had to do was play games, watch porn, and study here and there. There was so much time and so many girls around campus that sex is constantly on my mind.

Now in my early 30s, not that sex isn't important or anything, but I am so busy with everything else in life that it's just not the same compared to before...... I still enjoy sex with my gf but def. not the same as what it used to be. Toys on the other hand, makes it much simpler because it was all about me. It was "me" time. The feeling of worrying about me and me only is a nice feeling to have. For that 30 mins or so, I do not have anything to worry about other than my meiki and plush doll (I live by myself and my GF knows about the meikis, but not the doll, LOL.)

Maybe I don't look to have sex as much because I am too familiar with my gf, or maybe because the Plush and the Meikis relieve me of my needs so I don't need it as much........but I do know that if I had meikis and a plush doll back in college, it would get used probably 2-3 times a day.

Hey Daabears!

Thanks for sharing your story . I'm in my 20's and in graduate school, and in a committed long distance relationship. My girlfriend is really cool, and she even knows about the plush doll! That's how I know she is the one for me. I don't get to see my gf often, and if not for my toy collection I know that I would go out hunting more and feel discontent with the relationship.

It's definitely true that familiarity makes sex less interesting, but I think one huge confounding factor is whether regular porn viewing also has an effect. Here we are getting novel stimuli every day from women who are 10's... that with the Meiki's create a very pleasant substitute for the real thing.

I also find that regardless of how hot your girlfriend is, over time your body gets used to her. So your friends will still remind you of what a catch you have, how hot she is, etc... but the sex life and attraction will subside the same for every girl. I remember a friend of mine who was engaged to a supermodel-status half French half Vietnamese girl with gorgeous natural knockers. I would always say "Marry that woman!". They decided not to go through with the wedding. I think that at that point in their relationship, dating for 5+ years, physical appearance can no longer carry any weight in the relationship, and you have to decide whether to continue based on more important things.