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[d_friday]

I now have the thermostat in hand, but I've been pretty busy this week and haven't yet had the chance to experiment with it. I should be able to this weekend, and will report back with my results.

[Universal]

Ok I am ridiculously close to putting this whole thing together. (perch, thermostat et. al)

I *think* the therm could work but as all the other outside its intended purpose uses have still included essentially a heating pad type device (be it fermentation warmer, seedling keeper, snake heater) I have reservations as to its functioning for this purpose. (I know with nearest certainty it will work with a heating pad warming system which I employ but is not an quickie solution at all)

The other issue of concern is the probe reading. With a blanket in, around, or outside of the temperature zone, the heating device is AWAY from the sensor. The bird perch wedges itself in pinning the probe between it and the side.

My guess it's going to read the perch as 99 degrees and shutoff thereby leaving a stone cold mieki.

Yes I could use the therm as nothing more than a glorified temp sensor but that kills all notion of set it and forget it sort of defeating the need for a therm in the first place.

This could be ultra cool if it all comes together (I imagine my getting back to sleep after waking in the middle of the night problems could be solved with Mieki therapy (Mieki covered by my insurer. That'd be f'ing hilarious.)

So many buts, ifs, and maybes at this point though.

[Universal]

I now have the thermostat in hand, but I've been pretty busy this week and haven't yet had the chance to experiment with it. I should be able to this weekend, and will report back with my results.

Thanks for pioneering man.

Do have a look at my post for some of my concerns as to the whole combos usability. Im dead curious if Im on the right track or just defeatist.

[demondabbler]

Ok I am ridiculously close to putting this whole thing together. (perch, thermostat et. al)

I *think* the therm could work but as all the other outside its intended purpose uses have still included essentially a heating pad type device (be it fermentation warmer, seedling keeper, snake heater) I have reservations as to its functioning for this purpose. (I know with nearest certainty it will work with a heating pad warming system which I employ but is not an quickie solution at all)

The other issue of concern is the probe reading. With a blanket in, around, or outside of the temperature zone, the heating device is AWAY from the sensor. The bird perch wedges itself in pinning the probe between it and the side.

My guess it's going to read the perch as 99 degrees and shutoff thereby leaving a stone cold mieki.

Yes I could use the therm as nothing more than a glorified temp sensor but that kills all notion of set it and forget it sort of defeating the need for a therm in the first place.

This could be ultra cool if it all comes together (I imagine my getting back to sleep after waking in the middle of the night problems could be solved with Mieki therapy (Mieki covered by my insurer. That'd be f'ing hilarious.)

So many buts, ifs, and maybes at this point though.

The thermostat idea would be great if properly executed. I am more likely to just set a timer on my phone and come back after 10-15 minutes.

[Universal]

Yeah, I'm with you on that. Its far simpler.

But something about the idea of a custom temperature mieki  (equal to that of an aroused woman) at the ready in the middle of the night is hard to let go of.

[d_friday]

OK, I just decided to dive right in tonight.

The perch plug fits into the thermostat outlet, and the thermostat plugs into the wall.  I set it to 99.0 degrees F. I plugged it all together and stuck the perch and the sensor into my melted ZXY Meiki.   I stuck the sensor in roughly to the midpoint of the depth of the Meiki.

It took about 45 min from a cold start to reach 99F, when the power to the perch shut off. The temp continued to rise for 2-3 min up to 99.5F, I guess from retained heat in the perch, and then it fell for about 5 min down to 97F, when the power to the perch switched back on.  The temp then continued to fall down to about 95.9 F, until the heat caught up with it and it then started to rise again.  Rather than waiting for it to get back to 99F, I pulled it off at 98.6F and proceeded to use the Meiki for it's intended purpose. The temperature felt very warm at the base and mid shaft (perhaps even higher than optimal), and somewhat colder at the tip.  I wouldn't recommend putting the sensor out near the tip, though, because I don't think the perch makes heat at the tip.

So the only downside is that the Meiki wasn't evenly heated.  The deepest portion was colder than the rest, because the tip of the perch doesn't get as hot. That said, if you left the whole setup (with thermostat) *on* all of the time, it's likely the deepest portion of the Meiki would equilibrate to a higher temperature and would appear more realistic.

(I might try backing off on the temperature setting somewhat, as I suspect I would get acceptable results if the temp were slightly lower and it might make me feel better about leaving it on all of the time.)

I'd have to give  the setup (perch plus thermostat) 4 out of 5 stars, or generally speaking, "Thumbs up!"

[Universal]

OK, I just decided to dive right in tonight.

The perch plug fits into the thermostat outlet, and the thermostat plugs into the wall.  I set it to 99.0 degrees F. I plugged it all together and stuck the perch and the sensor into my melted ZXY Meiki.   I stuck the sensor in roughly to the midpoint of the depth of the Meiki.

It took about 45 min from a cold start to reach 99F, when the power to the perch shut off. The temp continued to rise for 2-3 min up to 99.5F, I guess from retained heat in the perch, and then it fell for about 5 min down to 97F, when the power to the perch switched back on.  The temp then continued to fall down to about 95.9 F, until the heat caught up with it and it then started to rise again.  Rather than waiting for it to get back to 99F, I pulled it off at 98.6F and proceeded to use the Meiki for it's intended purpose. The temperature felt very warm at the base and mid shaft (perhaps even higher than optimal), and somewhat colder at the tip.  I wouldn't recommend putting the sensor out near the tip, though, because I don't think the perch makes heat at the tip.

So the only downside is that the Meiki wasn't evenly heated.  The deepest portion was colder than the rest, because the tip of the perch doesn't get as hot. That said, if you left the whole setup (with thermostat) *on* all of the time, it's likely the deepest portion of the Meiki would equilibrate to a higher temperature and would appear more realistic.

(I might try backing off on the temperature setting somewhat, as I suspect I would get acceptable results if the temp were slightly lower and it might make me feel better about leaving it on all of the time.)

I'd have to give  the setup (perch plus thermostat) 4 out of 5 stars, or generally speaking, "Thumbs up!"

Wow man. Far more detailed than anyone could have expected. Mad props to you. I hope everyone agrees.

So given the whole cost/setup equation and some more time for a learning curve overcoming, you feel this is worth the trouble?

It seems so but I want to be sure as the $60 total is essentially this setup or well on the way to  another Meiki

[Universal]

So the only downside is that the Meiki wasn't evenly heated.  The deepest portion was colder than the rest, because the tip of the perch doesn't get as hot. That said, if you left the whole setup (with thermostat) *on* all of the time, it's likely the deepest portion of the Meiki would equilibrate to a higher temperature and would appear more realistic.

(I might try backing off on the temperature setting somewhat, as I suspect I would get acceptable results if the temp were slightly lower and it might make me feel better about leaving it on all of the time.)

Im curious as to why you think equilibrium would happen?  From my heating pad experiments, I had to heat through to the side edge of the sleeve before any fore and aft part of the sleeves would start to warm at all.

[demondabbler]

OK, I just decided to dive right in tonight.

The perch plug fits into the thermostat outlet, and the thermostat plugs into the wall.  I set it to 99.0 degrees F. I plugged it all together and stuck the perch and the sensor into my melted ZXY Meiki.   I stuck the sensor in roughly to the midpoint of the depth of the Meiki.

It took about 45 min from a cold start to reach 99F, when the power to the perch shut off. The temp continued to rise for 2-3 min up to 99.5F, I guess from retained heat in the perch, and then it fell for about 5 min down to 97F, when the power to the perch switched back on.  The temp then continued to fall down to about 95.9 F, until the heat caught up with it and it then started to rise again.  Rather than waiting for it to get back to 99F, I pulled it off at 98.6F and proceeded to use the Meiki for it's intended purpose. The temperature felt very warm at the base and mid shaft (perhaps even higher than optimal), and somewhat colder at the tip.  I wouldn't recommend putting the sensor out near the tip, though, because I don't think the perch makes heat at the tip.

So the only downside is that the Meiki wasn't evenly heated.  The deepest portion was colder than the rest, because the tip of the perch doesn't get as hot. That said, if you left the whole setup (with thermostat) *on* all of the time, it's likely the deepest portion of the Meiki would equilibrate to a higher temperature and would appear more realistic.

(I might try backing off on the temperature setting somewhat, as I suspect I would get acceptable results if the temp were slightly lower and it might make me feel better about leaving it on all of the time.)

I'd have to give  the setup (perch plus thermostat) 4 out of 5 stars, or generally speaking, "Thumbs up!"

a gentleman and a scholar. Props for doing this research and providing such a detailed write-up.

[d_friday]

Im curious as to why you think equilibrium would happen?  From my heating pad experiments, I had to heat through to the side edge of the sleeve before any fore and aft part of the sleeves would start to warm at all.

I just think after a few heating and cooling cycles the interior temperature gradients within the meiki will tend to be reduced. The interior tip of the vagina will never be as warm as the  middle, but I think it will tend to be closer than it was after one cycle. Today I'll just turn it on and leave it alone for a few hours and test it out later.

[Universal]

Im curious as to why you think equilibrium would happen?  From my heating pad experiments, I had to heat through to the side edge of the sleeve before any fore and aft part of the sleeves would start to warm at all.

I just think after a few heating and cooling cycles the interior temperature gradients within the meiki will tend to be reduced. The interior tip of the vagina will never be as warm as the  middle, but I think it will tend to be closer than it was after one cycle. Today I'll just turn it on and leave it alone for a few hours and test it out later.

Ah, that makes logical sense.

Another thing of interest, on many meiki boxes, the suggested temperatures are 35-36 C. ( 95- 96. It would be interesting to see how this temp range feels as opposed to are naturally assumed 98.6.

And thanks for sticking with this project. We are all in your debt.

Another question I had was can you use the therm for JUST a temp measurement? Say you heated it with some other method (water, etc) and just wanted to check it?  Or is the temperature sensing function tied into the on/off cycling of the power outlet (so you have to be actively using it wholly even if you only want to just check a temperature.)

[d_friday]

Sure, you can use it for simple temperature measurement.  I have it sitting on my desk right now and it's just reading the ambient temperature of the room air.

[Universal]

Sure, you can use it for simple temperature measurement.  I have it sitting on my desk right now and it's just reading the ambient temperature of the room air.

Awesome. Now I know Ill have a use for it even if this doesnt work out.

Off to amazon to buy.

[d_friday]

Well I let it sit over 24 hours with no apparent harm to the Meiki.  During the entire period it appeared to cycle within a range of 96 to 99.5 degrees F, with the thermostat turning off the perch when the temp hit 99, and turning it back on when the temp hit 97.  Upon using the Meiki, it did indeed seem, as expected, like the deepest part, the tip, was warmer than it had been after one cycle yesterday.

Going forward, I'm going to back off on the temp, setting it to 95 instead of 99.  We'll see how that feels.

I also just used duct tape to attach the sensor cable to the perch at the desired location, to reduce the chance of it getting inadvertently pulled out. Users should be warned, obviously, that if the sensor gets pulled out of the Meiki, it's only going to read ambient room temperature, and the perch will never shut off, and you will likely ruin the insides of your Meiki if it is left on the perch for a significant period of time.

[Universal]

Well I let it sit over 24 hours with no apparent harm to the Meiki.  During the entire period it appeared to cycle within a range of 96 to 99.5 degrees F, with the thermostat turning off the perch when the temp hit 99, and turning it back on when the temp hit 97.  Upon using the Meiki, it did indeed seem, as expected, like the deepest part, the tip, was warmer than it had been after one cycle yesterday.

Going forward, I'm going to back off on the temp, setting it to 95 instead of 99.  We'll see how that feels.

I also just used duct tape to attach the sensor cable to the perch at the desired location, to reduce the chance of it getting inadvertently pulled out. Users should be warned, obviously, that if the sensor gets pulled out of the Meiki, it's only going to read ambient room temperature, and the perch will never shut off, and you will likely ruin the insides of your Meiki if it is left on the perch for a significant period of time.

Awesome awesome stuff man. Thanks so much for sharing your findings.

The 99 could lead to some serious warmth as from what Ive read on the hydro website, it cycles 3 degrees above the set point and kicks back on 3 degrees below. I imagine 102 might not be fun if you hit it the wrong part of the cycle.

95 should be 92 low 98 high if the websites correct. Youll know before me though.