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[ahoy]

i just purchased venus clone and meiki zxy yesterday and tried both of them.  Compare to zxy, venus clone was a bit looser and softer, but it was somehow more stimulating.  the interior of venus clone has many small bumps, and those bumps were a little bit harder than the bumps and ridges in zxy. I mean, as i penetrated it back and forth, i could feel the bumps,(just bumps no ridges in venus clone) easier than the textures in zxy.  However, in zxy, like most other ppl have said, it has a pretty big and stimulating g-spot.  So most of stimulation i received when using zxy was from that prominent g-spot.  

in conclusion, the whole interior wall of venus clone is more stimulating than zxy, but it's g-spot is not as stimulating, while in zxy you would receive one focused stimulation from that big g-spot.  venus clone would surely pushes you to the edge faster than zxy, and the stimulation is stronger no matter how you rotate it.

sorry, i forgot to mention that venus clone has slightly longer canal than zxy (about 1.5-1.8 cm longer), and it is feel softer yet firmer than zxy.  It's hard to describe the feeling of that material unless you lay your hands on it...... but anyway, it's a better material imho.

[billyjoe]

I have the Venus Real (haven't tried the Clone yet) and the Succubus Standard Ribbed.  Both are outstanding.  Yes, it's a better, more durable material AND you can turn the Venus or Succubus inside out to clean and dry which makes a huge difference to me.  Combines the cleanup convenience of the FlipHole with the real-feel pleasure of the NPG Meiki products.
BTW, did you get the Firm, Regular, or Soft version?  Mine is the Soft, which is just a tiny bit firmer than Maria Ozawa, Up/Down, EXP, etc.
Oh, almost forgot - the Venus Real has a prominent G-spot, like MO and ZXY.

[ahoy]

i bought the soft texture

[boldav49]

I've tried several different brands of American masturbators which did the job; however I recently got a ZXY and it just  blew me away.  I found it very stimulating and satisfying from beginning to the end. I guess it has to do with all those irregular bumps, the slightly harder inner layer and the big G spot massaging my member. Now I'm interested in trying out some other Japanese toys, and I'm wondering if the the Venus Clone/Real gives you the same quality experience and intense sensation as the ZXY?

[ahoy]

venus clone is not as intense and tight as zxy due to lack of big g-spot, but its material is better.  it's softer and stretchy.  honestly, i think the inner material of zxy is a little rough compare to venus series(soft), and it kind of rub your skin off a bit if you dont use it with enough lube.  also venus series is more durable than zxy. 

one big letdown about the venus series is that IT DOES NOT RETAIN THE HEAT! even if you soak it into boiling hot water!

[Spagett!]

Just for kicks, you guys should try the Wavy Ripple Succubus. Its the most used sleeve I have and the one that always pleases to the fullest.

[billyjoe]

The Wavy Ripple (soft version) was the first Tomax toy I bought.  Yes, it's excellent, but I prefer the Standard Ripple because it's looser.  Loose onaholes like the Meiki EXP, SR Succubus and Clone DNA Hoshino are my favorites.
Regardless of which model or firmness you prefer, the quality /durability of the material is what makes the Venus and Succubus toys such standouts.

[Spagett!]

Yeah, I hear you on the looser holes. Nothing like silk on the dick.

[boldav49]

Ahoy- I never really thought about the material's lack of heat retaining properties. So far I haven't experienced that issue with my FL's and my Meiki ZXY.  I just put them in warm water for like 10 minutes before usage. I'm kind of surprised that the Tomax material is different, but I guess it wouldn't be the toy to use on a cold winter morning.  As for the ZXY material being a little "coarse" or intensive, I have to agree.  But that it's exactly what I like about it.  My FL's are more bland as sensations go, but it works for me on extending my session. However, when it's time to pop (as in the wife just drove up the driveway), the ZXY with it's superior feel and texture gets me right off.  I think for my next purchase I'm going to get the Meiki Maria for those longer sessions, but I still think the Tomax toys are real tempting due to their lower cost and apparent durability.